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[Plushy]

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You're only interpreting that way because you personally want change. When that's not what they're saying.
When they say necessary change they mean things like if there is a issue with the character model, they will change the character model to fix the issue.
For example, when they adjusted the moon miqo'te fangs, they had to adjust one of the miqo'te mouth to fix the clipping of the new fangs.
That is what they mean by necessary adjustments.
Not "we're going to change the characters because people are complaining about a barely noticable extended eyelash or slightly bigger lips"
And to extend off dynn post, changing characters leads to more bugs and texture issues this on top of more and more complaining arising because I don't know if you notice but everybody wants different adjustments.
There are people that like certain parts of the update and there are people that don't like anything and there are people that like everything.

SE can't please everyone. It's extremely unrealistic to expect them to keep adjusting characters onward in 7.x.
1.1 is what we're getting. They already have a ton of bugs to address, they're not going to add more by changing the characters.
Again, they're not going to do huge changes to characters for the live game where people can actually play the game.
This sets a precedent that SE can mess with our characters anytime they feel like.
This sets a huge unease that our characters are never safe.
They would also have to show us what they changed everytime and also give everybody a free fantasia and SE is a business, they're not going to do that.
My friend told me wow players went through the same thing they got over it in time, you all will too.
Instead asking thing to be reverted, ask for more character customization in the future.

That's the better option than upsetting players over and over by messing with people's characters.
The only time it's acceptable to adjust characters is when they do graphics updated just like what they did for 1.0 to 2.0.
With a game as big as FFXIV theyre not going to just causally change people's characters after the game is now live.
We have 10 days until early access, best you can do is make peace now and either make a new character or try to get use to your new look.

[LlymlaenGreene]

This is not going to happen, otherwise people would have to fantasia after every little tweak.

I just want to refresh your wonderful words about what you said earlier and after your words are sure that we will not get any changes, we get a new benchmark with a lot of fixes. You're stepping on the same rake again, saying the same thing now. https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ics-update-now.

We have 10 days until early access, best you can do is make peace now and either make a new character or try to get use to your new look.

haha and this person tells us that we are being selfish, I find it quite funny.
Create a new character. How sweet. I won't speak for everyone, but here's my game time. a lot of afk but still.

I haven't even changed my hairstyle since 300 hours.
Or do you think these are the same lips?

The company is asking for feedback. I give them information that in my opinion, what they have done does not suit me. And they have to figure out if it's a bug, they didn't notice it, or they decided to really change the aesthetics. I want to believe that before the release they will at least fix the lips of all the characters, because, for example, I saw how they changed the neutral line of mikote's lips to a smile, which completely changes the impression of the character. A person sees and reports. But you don't like it so much that you're running around Twitter collecting people's evidence.
You are the most biased person on this forum that I have seen. They tell you A, you tell B. I believe that you really don't care about other people's opinions. As can be seen from all your messages. You use these messages with a list of likes as a shield, protecting your own opinion. And you don't really care that they like the changes. You just need to confirm your words. I remember very well your first topic, where you clearly asked not to change anything, because you like the changes, and you don't care that we spent thousands of hours on our characters. I just looked at it, and you naturally edited your message. I'm not surprised.

It's selfish for you because you're biased. But the company itself said in its own words who they are focusing on first. These are the ones who have been playing the same characters for many years.And not you, who have not even seen a single casting scene with your new character, but we, who have gone through the whole story from A to Z. How the company keeps its words and rumors is a separate issue, I think it's a mistake of the management that they changed some parts so globally, allowing players to love it, and indeed, if they start changing it, they won't like it either.
Your opinion is just as important, but I believe that the opinion of those who ask for a return current characters look similiar is a bit more important

[Evermomo]

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Thank you for the advice, but despite my preferences, I'm okay with any outcome. To be specific, these are the sorts of things I suspect may see updates in the future;

- Restoring the racial trait of a darkened eye area for woodwilder vs duskwight elezen clans
- Restoring the jeweled pupil to femroe, since it's present in one of the male faces but missing from the female faces (2 and 4.)
- Restoring lalafell bellybutton
- Fixing low-res textures on male au ra face scales, as well as the cut-off/hollow tail.

I don't know if these, or other changes will be made, but I wouldn't be shocked either way. Like you, I also believe SE can't please everyone. I also agree that an expanded set of options would be beneficial. But even if the examples above fit your idea of an issue, or mine, somebody else may disagree and wind up disappointed, or the updates may come too late and people will wish they had saved their fantasia to switch back to their old character. We seem to agree on this point as well, (that everyone wants different adjustments,) so I hope you can see my reasoning. I would recommend everybody proceed with a little caution, because none of us are 100% entitled to anything. The reality where "SE can change our characters any time they like" is the reality we live in, even if we can expect them to do their best to make conscientious decisions.

There are some issues I think are borderline, like the female Au Ra pupil size and face 4's mouth, as well as small adjustments to lip and eye corners/textures. Genuinely, I think the outcome for that sort of thing is unpredictable. They are easy to change, but just as easy to ignore. I'm looking forward to the future either way.

[SchwarzwaelderTorte]

This sets a precedent that SE can mess with our characters anytime they feel like.
This sets a huge unease that our characters are never safe.

I can't believe it, we're finally agreeing on something.
Yeah, this has already happened, actually, and it's still happening. You see why people are on edge now?

How about for a change instead of trying to drown out other peoples voices [...] you give us concrete changes as to what you prefer in the new one which others dislike. Like one concrete example giving a before and after as many people have done here where you point out what you like more in the new one compared to the old.

If you're extremely particular about something you like in the new benchmark that you do not want to change at all, it's definitely worth talking about it in detail. Pointing out the good in something is always helpful, because this way people know what is worth keeping, and what still needs to be adjusted.

Also as I've stated before, if people have positive feedback to share on this thread, I think no one minds at all.
Just post your own picture and explain why you prefer your own character now (or NPCs, if you've recreated them).

Whenever you want Plushy!

[CantDecide]

My friend told me wow players went through the same thing they got over it in time, you all will too.

Actually, we didn't. Me and plenty others still remember how badly Blizzard botched some of the races in that update, and how much better and more faithful to the original fan-made renders at the time looked. It's because of Blizzard's mishandling of that update that I am so concerned to see SE going down the same route. Sure, the people who are upset will still play and begrudgingly tolerate the changes, and yes some might come to like them, but a significant degree of trust between consumer and developer will be lost.