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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderClone View Post
    I mean <2% DPS difference that only a handful of people will ever pursue after progression, and almost never during progression (other than simple lines like transpose f3p) is something that did not require any neutering.
    People shouldn't be chasing the 2% DPS increase during prog, but non-standard isn't just a damage tool - it's for movement and speed too. I use prog to figure out where I can mix up my rotation to get the most out of the time the boss is targetable/movement/etc. I do something non-standard basically the whole time the boss is actually targetable in DSR P2&5, and I had to do an N113 when I was progging TOP just to have enough movement for Pantokrator...

    I mostly stick to standard rotation until an encounter requires me to think outside of the box to move/keep uptime/get as many F4s in an active phase because I'm not great at planning my stuff on the fly, I usually just sorta feel out how to do my rotation the more prog pulls we get, but it very much is something I do during prog.

    I'm kind of... standard-with-a-sprinkling-of-non-standard, so I'm not as upset about the changes as some, but I do think the class will lose some of its charm because of it. It's certainly going to lose flexibility.

    I'm mainly just frustrated that when I finally do go back to TOP I'm going to have to go through the stress of figuring out how to do Panto all over again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by azaleai View Post
    People shouldn't be chasing the 2% DPS increase during prog, but non-standard isn't just a damage tool - it's for movement and speed too. I use prog to figure out where I can mix up my rotation to get the most out of the time the boss is targetable/movement/etc. I do something non-standard basically the whole time the boss is actually targetable in DSR P2&5, and I had to do an N113 when I was progging TOP just to have enough movement for Pantokrator...

    I mostly stick to standard rotation until an encounter requires me to think outside of the box to move/keep uptime/get as many F4s in an active phase because I'm not great at planning my stuff on the fly, I usually just sorta feel out how to do my rotation the more prog pulls we get, but it very much is something I do during prog.

    I'm kind of... standard-with-a-sprinkling-of-non-standard, so I'm not as upset about the changes as some, but I do think the class will lose some of its charm because of it. It's certainly going to lose flexibility.

    I'm mainly just frustrated that when I finally do go back to TOP I'm going to have to go through the stress of figuring out how to do Panto all over again...
    You're right. I haven't looked into the movement lines as much because I was mostly just playing around with BLM in Savage for casual opti runs and so mostly looked into the damage lines, so I missed that.

    It's such a shame that they just gutted it for no reason. I seriously don't understand what the point is. It almost feels personal, that someone on the dev team was offended people are not playing the job the way they want us to play it.
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