#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Gemina]

everyone is entitled to their own opinions and you are entitled to yours and I respect that.

but something to consider, since you think healing is super easy and only "donuts" are likely healers... how much of a "donut" is needed to play a job thats functionally invincible? I would say that you dont have to be very good to just mash a few buttons to survive most anything. just something to consider is all. its all perspective....

Just going to step in a slight bit to say this poster was quoting me when saying donut healer. I wouldn't want to give credit where it isn't due. Donut healer is just a term I use for my FC buddy who loves to kill me with Rescue when we're just playing around in content. xD

On a more serious note, I do appreciate your support as well as everyone else who came to my defense.

[ty_taurus]

if I understood it correctly this is about hopefully getting a message across that will influence the 8.0 development. I don't think anyone here is expecting changes in 2 weeks (or early Dawntrail). At least not as far as I saw.

I think 8.0 needs to deliver on a solid revamp of each healer, but there are things I want to see before 8.0, namely taking the attacks we already have access to and simply make them available more frequently. Reduce cooldowns, DoT durations, make the new 2 minute attacks into separate actions that are used more than once per 120 seconds... These are not unreasonable changes. I don't need them to be addressed exactly the way I want them to be, but I have examples of what I think is plausible for early DT on the first page.

[OgruMogru]

Also, picture(s) say a thousand words:

Scholar casts in top 5 speedrun, Savage, A12S/O12Sp2/E12Sp2/P12Sp2

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50th percentile Scholar, Savage, A12S/O12Sp2/E12Sp2/P12Sp2

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10th percentile Scholar, Savage, A12S/O12Sp2/E12Sp2/P12Sp2

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This is so sad and so funny oh man - I bet the trajectory of the other roles isn't this depressing. Why is this acceptable for healers for coming up to half a decade???

[Pandurah]

That's alright, there's about as much point in you listening to reason as there is to this whole "strike" you've organized. Sorry you continue to make bad decisions and have placed that on other people.

Now you're just being openly rude. Nothing you've said has any merit to it, nor is it constructive. It's just boring. You're boring.

[Kazmarek]

Now you're just being openly rude. Nothing you've said has any merit to it, nor is it constructive. It's just boring. You're boring.

And yet you continue to respond.

[TheForce]

I don't know who specifically other than two people have been rude over in JP, but I can tell you one of those was going to JP to trash talk the people in favor of the strike. The other person... That person seems more of someone on their own agenda and is kind of obnoxious. I would just ask that you hold the individual accountable for their actions rather than the group. No one is telling people they need to go harass JP forums or condoning that.

Absolutely, I'm focused on the particular individuals who are causing trouble over there and my unhappiness is directed at them, as I've been reading through this thread on the EN forums, I've been seeing a lot of people get a bit disrespectful/hostile towards one another, so
I just wanted to bring some awareness to those individuals who are doing this.


To be honest, I've even seen a bit of that kind of attitude in this thread from you, ty taurus.

[Pandurah]

And yet you continue to respond.

Yes because I play healer, so I'm used to monotony.
But hey, every comment keeps the thread alive! Thanks for the dozens of asinine posts and all the engagement.

[ty_taurus]

Personally, I'm not on board with this movement as I believe that healers' priority should always be healing, and I disagree fundamentally with the "green dps" idea that some people think should apply to healers. I also heal, and I nearly always find it to be very enjoyable and engaging.

Respectfully, what is wrong with having healers approach DPS in a variety of ways? Something I've been echoing as someone who wants a healer that has a very aggressive play style with a wider variety of attacks, I would like to see Sage develop that play style both because that's a part of its described identity and also because there are some people who want that. But not every healer should be the same, and there should be a spectrum of healers.

Absolutely, I'm focused on the particular individuals who are causing trouble over there and my unhappiness is directed at them, as I've been reading through this thread on the EN forums, I've been seeing a lot of people get a bit disrespectful/hostile towards one another, so
I just wanted to bring some awareness to those individuals who are doing this.


To be honest, I've even seen a bit of that kind of attitude in this thread from you, ty taurus.

I have done my best to address people with the respect they have shown coming into these conversations. Any arguments I've engaged with are from people who were rude and disrespectful either from the start or toward me. Including some people that I initially addressed politely until they lashed back at me for no reason.

[Kazmarek]

Yes because I play healer, so I'm used to monotony.
But hey, every comment keeps the thread alive! Thanks for the dozens of asinine posts and all the engagement.

Sure. Then people are gonna come in here, look at the latest comments, see you and me acting like idiots, and they're not gonna take it all that seriously.

[Aword3213]

For a large amount of the playerbase healers will be needed and they will be cherished, because a large amount of the playerbase isn't equipped with gear at or near the maximum iLvl along with materia, and they will totally understandably make frequent mistakes while playing (such as standing in AOEs, forgetting a mechanic, etc.) because they're human, and healers are needed for this.

In normal content, bosses give you plenty of time to recover even if you manage to fail every possible encounter. Bosses in later expansions take more time to cast their room wide aoe. Their mechanics take multiple cast bars to to acutally come out. You can't possibly die when there's nothing happening.