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  1. #2491
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    OliviaLugria's Avatar
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    Olivia Lugria
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazmarek View Post
    I suspect a lot of the healers striking are already donuts to begin with. You yourself, the creator of this thread, have admitted to not doing much higher-end content. Frankly, your opinion is completely irrelevant because of that.
    What a scummy take. So short sited, failing to see that players in the high end who have cleared ultimate fights as well as casuals who haven't even played very long have joined the strike. We're not just one group of people who don't feel catered to. Players from all tiers of play are mad. If you care about the game, and want to see it become better, your opinion should be valued by the dev team.

    I'm tired of hearing the argument "Go try harder content, you haven't experienced what REAL healing is like" but then players who have gone and done said content are told "Oh, well, you're just to good at the game, of course this content isn't engaging for you."

    We're asking for surprisingly little. It boils down to when there's not a lot of healing to be done, let us do something that's on par with what tanks do when there's no mitigation mechanics. If there is healing to do, let us have fun and unique ways to do said healing.
    We'd also like (and i know this is a big ask) if damage was increased enough so that the "bosses" actually had some amount of threat, and increase mob damage just enough so that the tanks can't solo a dungeon that is suppose to be made for 4 people.
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    I just want some competent job design along with a mild difficulty curve. Asking for more seems to much right now.

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  2. #2492
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    If naysayers say it doesn't matter how healing jobs play in casual content, we'll then we can just nerf warrior by making its heal scale of the number of weaponskills used instead of enemies hit. It won't matter if they can't turbo heal in dungeon multi-target situations since it's just dungeons.
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  3. #2493
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    I personally don't really care if Cleric Stance returns or not, but I want to point out that Cleric Stance existing actually helped the more casual playerbase.

    People viewed the chance of a healer being locked in Cleric Stance when healing was required to be very likely, so many people preferred the healer to not do damage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eorzean_username View Post
    So tales of switching to Cleric, and then everyone DYING HORRIBLY AHHHHH because you can't heal because you're strapped in Cleric Jail, seem perplexing and greatly-exaggerated to me.
    Honestly, this kind of example reads more like a healer timing their Cleric Stance badly, which isn't the fault of the skill but of the player.
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  4. #2494
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    If naysayers say it doesn't matter how healing jobs play in casual content, we'll then we can just nerf warrior by making its heal scale of the number of weaponskills used instead of enemies hit. It won't matter if they can't turbo heal in dungeon multi-target situations since it's just dungeons.
    How will WAR live with only a 1600 cure potency, 30% mitigation and a 400 cure potency shield every 25 seconds?????
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  5. #2495
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    How will WAR live with only a 1600 cure potency, 30% mitigation and a 400 cure potency shield every 25 seconds?????
    Thoughts and prayers.

    Actually the WHM might be taking a break, so just thoughts.
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  6. #2496
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    Kayokane's Avatar
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    Aluena Mahri
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eorzean_username View Post
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    I'm glad you've never had the experience of accidentally double clicking Cleric's Stance off and back on again when you needed to heal, that combined with Hallowed Ground delay caused many a wipe back in the day. 5 seconds is a long time when you need to heal now.

    Cleric's Stances CD only applied when turning Cleric's Stance on, not when turning it off. I guess you must have done a hotbar swap macro so you didn't need to deal with the possible recast?
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  7. #2497
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    And if you don't like how a nerfed warrior would feel in dungeons, so what? It's just dungeons bro. Do savage to feel powerful again bro.
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  8. #2498
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    Ogru Magnataraxia
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    Bring back berserk pacification!
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    Last edited by OgruMogru; 06-16-2024 at 10:39 AM.

  9. #2499
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    Pandurah's Avatar
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    Luma Deahaart
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    Lich
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kayokane View Post
    Cleric's Stances CD only applied when turning Cleric's Stance on, not when turning it off. I guess you must have done a hotbar swap macro so you didn't need to deal with the possible recast?
    It happened to me a few times when learning, but that's the point of learning. Although, as a SCH main I could pump out % heals with Lustrate (at least in ARR).
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  10. #2500
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    Alinne Seamont
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    Goblin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kayokane View Post
    I'm glad you've never had the experience of accidentally double clicking Cleric's Stance off and back on again when you needed to heal, that combined with Hallowed Ground delay caused many a wipe back in the day. 5 seconds is a long time when you need to heal now.

    Cleric's Stances CD only applied when turning Cleric's Stance on, not when turning it off. I guess you must have done a hotbar swap macro so you didn't need to deal with the possible recast?
    You know, I also never experienced a wipe due to that (admittedly, a close call- but that was on me). Am I disputing that it happened? Not at all, however people also die to:

    - mistimed/misplaced rescues
    - mistimed heals and tank invuls
    i could keep going, to be fair, I would not have tossed out Cleric Stance entirely but adjusted it somewhat- however I was able to work with it even as a sprout healer at the time.
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