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  1. #1571
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    Hellebore_Ghrian's Avatar
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    Hellebore Ghrian
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    It is every single content since begining of EW. Xeno only put the matter (existing since several years now) under the light with his media tour video.
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by KikiTia View Post
    It was the first dungeon of the expansion during a media tour. Of course it's going to be easy. Why don't we have this debate after the expansion launches and not before we have even played the classes ourselves?
    Sir, Holminster ain't switching, and Zot would like to have a word with you.
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    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."

  3. #1573
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    Macchi Ato
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 93
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  4. #1574
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    Grim Gaelasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by KikiTia View Post
    It was the first dungeon of the expansion during a media tour. Of course it's going to be easy. Why don't we have this debate after the expansion launches and not before we have even played the classes ourselves?
    We already had "this debate" twice. Trust in the devs is at a rather low point at this moment.
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  5. #1575
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    WeakestZenosEnjoyer's Avatar
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    Scrappy Moonlord
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    Quote Originally Posted by KikiTia View Post
    It was the first dungeon of the expansion during a media tour. Of course it's going to be easy. Why don't we have this debate after the expansion launches and not before we have even played the classes ourselves?
    Shadowbringers, Holminster Switch is one of if not the hardest dungeon,

    Endwalker, Tower of Zot is one of if not the hardest dungeon,

    Even if by some miracle they drastically increase difficulty and later Dawntrail is a healing paradise in content design, healers are still broken all over the place in roulettes, tanks are still a co-healer, and we still only have 1-1-1 for filler.
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  6. #1576
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    Connor Whelan
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by KikiTia View Post
    It was the first dungeon of the expansion during a media tour. Of course it's going to be easy. Why don't we have this debate after the expansion launches and not before we have even played the classes ourselves?
    I swear I’ve seen this exact same post come out every expansion.

    ‘Stop complaining about something that isn’t even out yet omg!’

    *SE releases the content with the exact issues people were discussing*

    ‘Stop complaining about the content that’s already out when we haven’t even seen the new expansion!'

    Like how much 'lived experience' of this exact issue happening every goddamn expansion before we're 'allowed' to complain?
    9.0? 10.0?
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  7. #1577
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    Fray Margrace
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    I swear I’ve seen this exact same post come out every expansion.

    ‘Stop complaining about something that isn’t even out yet omg!’

    *SE releases the content with the exact issues people were discussing*

    ‘Stop complaining about the content that’s already out when we haven’t even seen the new expansion!'

    Like how much 'lived experience' of this exact issue happening every goddamn expansion before we're 'allowed' to complain?
    9.0? 10.0?
    Yeah, fair enough. I guess I'd just rather not make life harder for others because I'm unable to accept something. Healing isn't the best but it doesn't stop me playing with friends or enjoying the story. So I have no desire to participate in a strike that, if it gains enough traction, would cause chaos and probably create issues in other fields for the rest of the expansion. But I guess others don't see it that way.
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  8. #1578
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by KikiTia View Post
    Yeah, fair enough. I guess I'd just rather not make life harder for others because I'm unable to accept something. Healing isn't the best but it doesn't stop me playing with friends or enjoying the story. So I have no desire to participate in a strike that, if it gains enough traction, would cause chaos and probably create issues in other fields for the rest of the expansion. But I guess others don't see it that way.
    We are simply dropping a job that we don't enjoy playing anymore, there's nothing wrong with that at all.

    Besides, as other posters have said, we're a drop in the ocean and others are eager to replace us, let them.
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  9. #1579
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    Larc Grumbles
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    History is riddled with claims that any dissatisfied group has chosen the wrong time, method, or place to complain.

    Not to grandstand about how important FFXIV healer issues are in the wider scheme of humankind, but it's a common tactic whether people making the argument genuinely believe what they're saying or not.

    It often doesn't hold water because they wouldn't notice or care about the issue if it didn't interfere with their day or perspective in some way. It's nonviolent protest 101.

    It's absolutely fine in this case to just not worry about it and keep healing if you find your reasons, but it's not another player's job to make your queue go faster or even function at all if they don't enjoy that role.
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  10. #1580
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    James Oakes
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    Phoenix
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    We are simply dropping a job that we don't enjoy playing anymore, there's nothing wrong with that at all.

    Besides, as other posters have said, we're a drop in the ocean and others are eager to replace us, let them.
    It's such a depressing take that healers have to keep playing a role they're not having fun with so other people can enjoy the game.
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