#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Minali]

So this is the reason I waited 20 minutes as PLD on Tuesday night while doing roulettes, thanks to this stupid movement. Why can you players just play the game? This strike is petty because it is not allowing other people to play group content.

Granted, I haven't asked every single possible healer why they decided to queue to their roulette as tank or DPS lately, but considering how few people are even aware this forum exists, let alone hang around over here or hear about it from others, I'm pretty sure you're giving us way too much credit. The queues are abyssmal atm - even when I queued as healer mind you - because a lot of people simply don't play at all. Raiders are done raiding, gear farmers are done gear farming or table it until Dawntrail drops, because then you get the BiS for poetics. Crafters stopped crafting because people stopped buying, because better gear is around the corner. Relic farmers are done farming relics or didn't even bother this time because they were a joke and not attached to long time entertaining content like Bozja. And on top of that a lot of people are literally unable to play because they cannot pay for the game thanks to Visa processing payments to Japan properly and SE's account system being outdated as hell.
The queues are long because barely anyone is queueing, no matter the role. And this is perfectly normal for the month before a new expansion drops, might just be a bit more drastic this time due to a significant lack of things helping with long term entertainment this expansion.

[prinny25]

Even though I'm a tank main I'm throwing my support in for the strike

[eksynn]

honestly i don't really mind it. i'm mostly a solo player anyway. i just hate that i can't deal so much damage on my own, so i'm constantly struggling, since i have no one to play with me, especially on a stable basis.
i mean i'm fine with how HEALING plays, but if they're gonna naturally exclude us from queues like that, at least give us better dps, y'no? ( ･ ～･)

edit: as a friend commented on this to me: It'd be cool if they could comment on it and be transparent, even if it was to say, "here's why we're doing it and we're not changing it". At least that way people could figure out how they feel and move on appropriately. now people seem like they're in a limbo about it

as a scholar and sage, you have my support. if there's a list you can add my name to, please do.
#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Pandurah]

snip snap

Thanks for the engagement. Another comment, another boost!

[Fukuro]

When I play DPS I get to use my whole kit no matter the difficulty of the content. As healer the better you get, the less you use your skills. This is straight up bad design and I'm wondering how it is lasting so long. I don't think people want to get the content much more difficult for healers, just make it so that you actually need to press stuff. Wether it is heals, buffs ect.

[Turtledeluxe]

To be fair, that's how a lot of players see other players in general. How many times have you been addressed by your job abbreviation rather than your name in a random group?

I actually feel like I've only seen or experienced this when people are either making a joke or correcting some kind of mistake/giving a tip. Generally people tend to use it for the latter to avoid seeming personal or confrontational, I imagine.

Also consider some names are easier to type than others.

These "what if scenarios" are things I just don't experience, including the level.90 tanks with 8 stacks of vul never using their healing. I just don't experience that. I've played since EW and maybe quit a dungeon due to tank incompetence once or twice.

[UnconfirmedCat]

Casuals play longer while raiders often stop playing the game as soon as the savage or ultimate content is done.

We both know this is just anecdotal. You can just as easily say casuals are not as invested so they leave quicker to do other things. It's all made up assumptions that I'll call out when I see it.

You think that healers are "casual" but i know ppl who say that healers are too complex for them. they go and play a dd and only do 1,2 ,3 and are happy with it. if you are lucky they found the 4th button for aoe dmg, but thats really rare. they will clear every single story dungeon and normal trail with 1, 2, 3 and no one cares.

Yeah, so if they are going to be bad at the game anyway, why not just let them be bad at classes the rest of us can enjoy. People in this thread that are defending healer design cannot make up there mind. Healer classes simultaneously need to remain casual, but you also need to play them at the highest difficulty to experience them properly. It's nonsense.

now you think its smart to give a healer a rota. why should a class that works on demand have a fixed rota when the dmg intake is not a fixed rota? And i mean the other 3 or 7 ppl in your party that spontaneously might die or need healing. why do i need the "oh no. dont get hurt. dont die! im in my 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 rotation! i dont have time for that! Other healer, do something!" and the other healer will tell you that they dont wanna interrupt their rotation either.

Healers already have a fixed rotation, it's 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 [...] . The majority of healing that players do is OGCD as well so it will not interfere with any rotation, just as it doesn't do that now. People don't say this about tanks. "Omg I can't swap because I need to do my rotation!" There is 0 outcry anywhere that "Tanks need to be simplified further because they need to press buttons to mitigate and do tank swaps". Again, it's really funny to me and reveals how bad the majority of these arguments that pop-up when discussing healers and not anything else in this game. You can always identify when people are making it up as they are going along when they act like healers exist in some of kind of vacuum and as if we don't have literally 10 years worth of content, jobs added to the game, and experience to evaluate.

"only healers have boring content bc they dont have so many buttons to press". i cant agree. imagine even as a gunbreaker i was often bored. i switched to healer becuase they can react spontaneously and dont have to follow a boring rotation.

There is nothing to react to in solo encounters 100% of the time, and there is nothing to react to in dungeons like 95% of the time in my experience, and even then it's always solved by pressing 1 button.

[One4aLL]

I have quit healer since the changes on Astrologian.
#ffxivhealerstrike

[Loggos]

Zepla made a video of the strike. (I am still watching it.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg_-J2AMh0U

Thank you! I haven't watched everything yet but so far she seems to agree with the core problems regarding the state of healers and made some very good points. Not sure if she's fully on board with the idea of a strike but she understands people's frustrations.

She actually said that she explicitly wanted to cover this topic/thread because she knows the devs watch streams and hopes that Yoshi sees this.

So no matter her stance regarding the details she actively wanted to give visibility to the healer issue and I think that's great.

[QuviSae]

I'm absolutely joining this because not only is the ignoring our feedback in of itself unacceptable, but the changes in DT are....horrid. Seeing these comments really shows how non-healer players thing/feedback has effected us too. I wasn't a fan with the astro changes going into shadowbringers, but I stomached them because the job still seemed fun and did what I liked, which was SUPPORTING. Unfortunately, the last bit of Astrologian's identity has been wiped going into dawntrail. The randomness didn't feel the best, but the problem with that was the seal/astrodyne/old div system didn't feel good for randomness. Not only that but the only other big problem with astro I specifically had was it's double weave/constant clicking opener, yes yes, I know, skill issue and the such, but it didn't feel good. These cards are just (mostly) our existing skills? Like these would have been nice.....pre-endwalker maybe, before exaltation/intersection but they're just...pointless now, at least with the DPS cards I felt like I was SUPPORTING my DPS players.

I always go into an expansion playing AST, but for this one, I've made the extremely hard choice not to, not out of malice, but out of my love for the job and wanting to see it be better and fun again. As constant others have said, stormblood astro was best. I understand TP is gone, but there's tons of ideas for other effects. We're losing the beautiful animations of draw and redraw too. I sure love getting....just a burst-nuke, an aspected helios upgrade, and a.....aoe 10% mit, you know, that thing the ranged DPS get in early levels!

I hope my own, and our gathered efforts for them to notice our reactions to this will pay off in the end. Like I said, I want Astrologian to be what it once was, at least....some semblance of that.

This is not my beautiful home, this not my beautiful wife.