Player's Poll: FFXIV or FFXI-2?

[darkstarpoet1]

I literally choked on irony.

the irony is posting a loaded poll and being shown even with the way it was worded it's still in the vast minority.

[Zaaku]

You say loaded. I say honest.

The point is to outline the general heading of each direction. The current state we find ourselves in will denote further casualization of the game in the future. They are not going to just suddenly about face and change the entire structure in 2.0

If this is the trend this continues it is what we can expect further of. The piss easy leveling. Rampant PLing. Lacking of challenging and substantial Endgame.

If the vote points towards players enjoying the latter option then fantastic. We've got ourselves some indication of the mindset of the players in FFXIV. It may not be the view I share but hey, then that just proves a point. That they are netting more profits catering to less involved subscribers.

[darkstarpoet1]

You say loaded. I say honest.

The point is to outline the general heading of each direction. The current state we find ourselves in will denote further casualization of the game in the future. They are not going to just suddenly about face and change the entire structure in 2.0

If this is the trend this continues it is what we can expect further of. The piss easy leveling. Rampant PLing. Lacking of challenging and substantial Endgame.

If the vote points towards players enjoying the latter option then fantastic. We've got ourselves some indication of the mindset of the players in FFXIV. It may not be the view I share but hey, then that just proves a point. That they are netting more profits catering to less involved subscribers.

the problem your poll has though, as many have pointed out, is it was completely black and white. you didn't have any middle ground which is where the majority lies. i would love to see some of the stuff from xi make its way here, but i do not want to see all of it. there was some stupid stuff in xi that i want nothing to do with so i think alot of people voted "easy mode" just to avoid those things they do not want.

i do not like the ease of the game as it sits now and i did not vote for either option you gave, but if i were forced to choose between them i've vote the easy game as well. if you want a poll that's not loaded you need to give the options for xi style game(difficult and time consuming), wow style game(pure easy mode game with alot of fun), and a combination of both. you would also not come across and pretend that anyone that doesn't want everything xi wants simple and everything just handed to them.

[Zaaku]

I choose such stark alternatives because there will ALWAYS be compromise. Even if 98% of the player in game voted for the first option they immediately would not reskin FFXI and called it gravy. Same goes for the latter. If it turns out that a large majority prefer this more carefree interpretation of an FF MMO I doubt we'll get everything handed to us and never struggle with any challenge.

As I mentioned it is more the direction you would like the game to head in. To proceed in a more casual manner which opens access to more players or a more difficult setting which will thin the population but make the game more rewarding.

[Bigbosshenry]

Like this post if you think the OP is asking loaded questions and just generally trolling.

if there is any trolls in here it is you , all of your posts are like that.

[Bigbosshenry]

~EXP requirements: I feel leveling is just about the right pace. I don't think it should take 3 months to level one class

i dont think its any better now , you see people get their crown in a month...

[Eagleheart]

The existence of this thread terrifies me.

[Arcell]

I literally choked on irony.

You'll have to elaborate because I fail to see the irony. The game came back from being F2P so it can't be that. If you're saying that a game being made for a more casual crowd than XI is a WoW clone then you must be trolling. However you seem to be operating in extremes so no surprise there.

[Zaaku]

You'll have to elaborate because I fail to see the irony. The game came back from being F2P so it can't be that. If you're saying that a game being made for a more casual crowd than XI is a WoW clone then you must be trolling. However you seem to be operating in extremes so no surprise there.

Yes that is what I'm saying. FFXI was the last "old school" MMO to retain a high then average difficulty and was very unforgiving when it came to its day to day play experiences. WoW came out near the same time and we've seen how it has impacted the MMO world. Everyone strives to copy their success which was largely in part to easier content and fast rewards. It has contaminated developers mindset and instead of making their platforms geared towards to older MMO generations they have adopted a more casual friendly archetype.

I would happily still be in FFXI if Abbysea had not ruined it. That single expansion undid 7 years of the delicate balancing act SE had preformed to keep new gear attractive while not antiquating old pieces of lewt. Nor did the new jobs make useless others since there was much sidegrading and swappable jobs which could fit multiple roles. FFXIV failed as hard as it did because it was rushed. Adding to its unfinished woes however was the ever present casual mode leveling outline. It was clear they were trying to make it so people with less time could keep pace with those who could dedicate more to their character.

I want FFXIV to become more like it predecessor. Less like every other MMO on the market today. I just found it funny you told me that if I didn't like FFXIV to go play a WoW clone which is the exact thing I am trying to avoid.

Not everyone is trolling you Arcell :P

[Eagleheart]

Delicate balancing act of XI?

You mean shadow tanks for everything in the game, the consistent domination of SAM/WAR/MNK, leaving DRK/DRG in the dust, the ever-pitiable and morose THF, SEBW zergs, Skirmish Pephedro in Bhaflau Remnants, Absolute Virtue, PANDEMONIUM WARDEN, hundreds of millions of gil, and thousands of man-hours for 10-20% DPS increase via relics, veritable pages of useless abilities and weaponskills that do naught but consume memory slots and fill out description tags for artifact and relic armor?

Three hour events with twenty to sixty folks pulling and sleeping four to twelve mobs, hoping that one of them would finally drop that bloody pair of Valor Gauntlets? Or were you particularly fond of Ullikummi and his twelve-hour window, back in the golden days of RMT'd Sky?

Yeah, those guys are back, and they've promised a return to the days of old. Perhaps you should re-subscribe. o.o