#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Moqi]

Sometimes I think SE weighs 1 complaint post on twitter regarding healing difficulty more than years of combined feedbacks about healers.

All the changes they do to any class seem to be made to accomodate players who don't actually play the job to get them to rather than players who actually like them as they are.

Anyway my sub lapsed today so that's it for me (I haven't logged in in a couple of weeks anyway) so that's my strike lol.

[xbahax92]

The main sub isn't joining in this because you all are being so ridiculous. Healers aren't dead. They never were, and they never will be. The healer role will be just fine without you loud minority lot. The devs likely know this, because this is the exact same screeching people have before every single expansion.

Y'all are judging an entire expansion based on 1 dungeon, the very first dungeon, which is supposed to be the easiest content in the game. Y'all are absolutely ridiculous. "Yawntrail" lmao. No one has even played the game and this is already being coined. 99/100 people will think this is unfair or ridiculous.

Take a chill pill. Take a break. Do what you gotta do. But stop with this pointless doomposting.

Healer issues have been around since 2 expansions. I dont know how you missed all the reoccuring threads for healers, but players been asking for better healer rotations since years. If this was some baseless joke, why do you think so many players share the same opinion?
There is a resonance between players on this topic, no matter how small that "minority" might be. That's a good reason to shake up a few things.
If this ridiculous doomposting bothers you this much, maybe its a good time to take a little break from the forums, heh?

[Iscah]

I Not even causal players are happy about healer gameplay experience in ShB and EW. Imagine playing as a healer through MSQ with trusts. Such level of bordem can upset even the casualest of casuals.

Where are you getting that from? Your second sentence makes it sound like you're simply assuming that because you don't like the simple gameplay, it's impossible that anyone else could, which is not inherently the case.

[PercibelTheren]

The main sub isn't joining in this because you all are being so ridiculous. Healers aren't dead. They never were, and they never will be. The healer role will be just fine without you loud minority lot. The devs likely know this, because this is the exact same screeching people have before every single expansion.

Y'all are judging an entire expansion based on 1 dungeon, the very first dungeon, which is supposed to be the easiest content in the game. Y'all are absolutely ridiculous. "Yawntrail" lmao. No one has even played the game and this is already being coined. 99/100 people will think this is unfair or ridiculous.

Take a chill pill. Take a break. Do what you gotta do. But stop with this pointless doomposting.

No, we are not basing this on the first dungeon. I won't speak for other expansions because I've only been around in Endwalker but healers are already in a sorry state right now. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that everyone and their mothers getting more healing will only invalidate the healer role further.

Healers aren't dead. But they also aren't fun. That's what this is about.

[Saraide]

The main sub isn't joining in this because you all are being so ridiculous. Healers aren't dead. They never were, and they never will be. The healer role will be just fine without you loud minority lot. The devs likely know this, because this is the exact same screeching people have before every single expansion.

Y'all are judging an entire expansion based on 1 dungeon, the very first dungeon, which is supposed to be the easiest content in the game. Y'all are absolutely ridiculous. "Yawntrail" lmao. No one has even played the game and this is already being coined. 99/100 people will think this is unfair or ridiculous.

Take a chill pill. Take a break. Do what you gotta do. But stop with this pointless doomposting.

But it shouldnt be possible to do in the hardest content in the game, right?

[PercibelTheren]

Mostly heal? Mostly heal what exactly?

Exactly. I'd love opportunities to actually use my healing kit. Alas, the only times I get to properly have fun as a healer is when a pull is going HORRENDOUSLY wrong and my co-healer is asleep at the wheel, so I'm trying to mitigate a disaster and the game is actually putting me through my paces as a healer.

Obviously, I'm not asking for this kind of challenge in normal content (though having to press at least one button every once in a while would be nice) but from Extreme upwards, I want the game to push me and push me hard. Force me to run triage. Make me think about which healing tools I'm using and when because I will NEED to use more big heals soon.

Unfortunately, that's not going to happen. Thus, I'm asking for something, ANYTHING else to do beyond the mindless 2-1-1-1 spam.

[Supersnow845]

The main sub isn't joining in this because you all are being so ridiculous. Healers aren't dead. They never were, and they never will be. The healer role will be just fine without you loud minority lot. The devs likely know this, because this is the exact same screeching people have before every single expansion.

Y'all are judging an entire expansion based on 1 dungeon, the very first dungeon, which is supposed to be the easiest content in the game. Y'all are absolutely ridiculous. "Yawntrail" lmao. No one has even played the game and this is already being coined. 99/100 people will think this is unfair or ridiculous.

Take a chill pill. Take a break. Do what you gotta do. But stop with this pointless doomposting.

Okay let me ask you this (and I genuinely want people who think this whole thing is stupid to answer this not people who already agree saying “they obviously have no argument”)

Are we not entitled, as consumers who have done exactly what we have always been asked to do; go on the forums and offer feedback on changes we don’t like. We have offered an absolute mountain of feedback, we have offered feedback that we believe benefits all sides of the playerbase and we have attempted on the whole to be respectful to an explanation of sorts as to why our feedback is not changing anything.

We have been ignored for nigh on 8 years at this point, not even receiving a “we appreciate the feedback but our data shows that the direction we are going in is the correct one”. We are the only role that has no flexibility in the difficulty of the different jobs, they are all too easy

What are we genuinely supposed to do? Our complaints fall on deaf ears, we lost AST with DT and people continue to tell us “if you don’t like it don’t play healer”. So we collectively decided we won’t play healer anymore and somehow that’s also the wrong thing to do

If people think this is stupid please I genuinely want to know what I should be doing instead

[GrimGale]

The "healers should heal" faction keps forgetting this is a 11 year old (14 if you count 1.0) game.

We HAD more Dps tools.
We HAD more incoming damage.
We HAD more engaging content for healers.

We had some issues too back then (balance, useless job gauges, incredibly tight dps checks, over the top aggro interactions with overheal, clunky cleric stance activation/deactivation) , but at least the healing jobs had more interesting things to do.

The devs justified the massive pruning of our skills in ShB, saying it would be a baseline to rebuild our kits.

That was a lie. We got our filler tools taken away and replaced with nothing.
We got our healing time taken away and replaced with nothing.

Veteran healers want their engaging gameplay back.

[Deceptus]

im going to be running 0 healer roulette PF in dawntrial for no other reason than because we simply dont need them. and the sad thing is.. if you do this.. the game actually becomes hard again because you NEED to communicate with you team and plan out mits and heals..


mental.. i know

Unless you're a warrior and can Nacent Flash a DPS every 24s and bring them (and the tank) from zero to full, or shake it off to cover any aoe that goes out.

[Merrigan]

The "healers should heal" faction keps forgetting this is a 11 year old (14 if you count 1.0) game.

We HAD more Dps tools.
We HAD more incoming damage.
We HAD more engaging content for healers.

We had some issues too back then (balance, useless job gauges, incredibly tight dps checks, over the top aggro interactions with overheal, clunky cleric stance activation/deactivation) , but at least the healing jobs had more interesting things to do.

The devs justified the massive pruning of our skills in ShB, saying it would be a baseline to rebuild our kits.

That was a lie. We got our filler tools taken away and replaced with nothing.
We got our healing time taken away and replaced with nothing.

Veteran healers want their engaging gameplay back.

New healer as well. I never played during Shb, popped on FFXIV with Shadowbringer. You don't need to have a lot of experience to actually point the fact that 1-1-1-1 during 90% of a fight isn't... Top gameplay design.