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    #FFXIVTANKPARTY

    As has been discussed in this thread:

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ithout-healers.

    We're getting even more self-healing on abilities like Rampart, Vengeance and Sentinel so it'll be a breeze to 1tank/3dps dungeons even on PLD/DRK/GNB.

    I would like to make this the official PARTY THREAD sub 10m dungeons here we come.
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    Equitable_Remedy's Avatar
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    Eristede Kell
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    You might be on to something... Second Wind is getting that upgrade in DT...

    Party time?
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    Joining in on this, I know you meant for this as an attack on the healer role...but this is indirectly supporting the movement xD.
    But, if the issue is glaring enough, hopefully they fix the healer role and tank/dd role gets a nerf in sustain. Until then healerless party only, let's go.
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    2024/06/10 10:06; Katish が最後に編集
    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    1: Healers need something to do when they aren't healing, the lousy one button dps experience and occasional second just is not enough.
    2: The sustain of the nonhealer jobs has taken our job from us...which has left us nothing to do besides our lousy one button dps experience.
    3: We do not need most of the healing buttons...a lot of those buttons can straight up be removed or consolidated. Which would be a good thing to consolidate using the new sys.
    4: Pure & Shield means nothing and having any combination of the two is just overkill.

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    Quote 引用元:Katish 投稿を閲覧
    Joining in on this, I know you meant for this as an attack on the healer role...but this is indirectly supporting the movement xD.
    But, if the issue is glaring enough, hopefully they fix the healer role and tank/dd role gets a nerf in sustain. Until then healerless party only, let's go.
    It's a 2 for 1.
    Self described healer mains are truly horrendous to play with. Endwalker should've been the wake-up call for any 'healer mains'.
    And in a way yes, I am supporting the game creating more engaging, difficult content that would require the presence of a healer. I don't think taking away DPS/TANK toolkits are the way to do it, that's a band-aid fix for an existential problem.
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    Viorel Amala
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    Quote 引用元:iAxX23 投稿を閲覧
    It's a 2 for 1.
    Self described healer mains are truly horrendous to play with. Endwalker should've been the wake-up call for any 'healer mains'.
    And in a way yes, I am supporting the game creating more engaging, difficult content that would require the presence of a healer. I don't think taking away DPS/TANK toolkits are the way to do it, that's a band-aid fix for an existential problem.
    remember when p8s was a a rather pain in the ass to heal and so many healers got mad? unless actual challanging content for healers to go heal through isnt what they want lmao
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    Quote 引用元:4clubbedace 投稿を閲覧
    remember when p8s was a a rather pain in the ass to heal and so many healers got mad? unless actual challanging content for healers to go heal through isnt what they want lmao
    skill issue.
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    I've been thinking about just making parties that only have a tank OR healer OR red mage since we only really need 1 of these.

    But I just never care enough to bother since making parties in PF is slower than just entering the (instant) queue.
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    Oizen's Avatar
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    A year ago I said I kinda wish DRK had heart of corundum as a joke during a raid session, Yoship heard me.
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    Quote 引用元:Oizen 投稿を閲覧
    A year ago I said I kinda wish DRK had heart of corundum as a joke during a raid session, Yoship heard me.
    I actually don't think one self heal once every 2 minutes is going to make dark knight busted, I kind of like it anyway, Seems like one of the more "reasonable" self sustain tools...

    Too bad they gave warrior a 400 potency regen for some reason... who knows why at this point... Warrior literally has self healing on everyone of their defensive cooldowns... Even rampart helps their self healing.
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    Quote 引用元:Rithy255 投稿を閲覧
    I actually don't think one self heal once every 2 minutes is going to make dark knight busted, I kind of like it anyway, Seems like one of the more "reasonable" self sustain tools...

    Too bad they gave warrior a 400 potency regen for some reason... who knows why at this point... Warrior literally has self healing on everyone of their defensive cooldowns... Even rampart helps their self healing.
    I think its going to change how DRKs mit, one one hand an excog is weird on a job that excels at not taking damage.
    But then I think their mits are flexible enough to be able to move the excog around where its needed, especially in casual/side content. I'm a fan of the idea.

    WAR on the other hand feels kinda like an insult, its a strong skill but its not needed at all. WAR would be a lot more cozy with a shield or even just not having a regen but more mit.
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