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    Oizen's Avatar
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Dark Knight Lv 100

    Dawntrail's mediatour dungeon was already cleared without healers.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqBWp00XNZs

    Not a fan of this guy in particular but I think its pretty sad we're still here in this same boat again.


    Guess the healers aren't going to have any engagement outside of ultimate raids again.
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    Not to mention if this is what "ENHANCED ENCOUNTER DESIGN" means, 7.x is already a spectacular failure.

    Also they're really just doubling down. I wonder if they all got long COVID at their office











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    Last edited by AnimalsALot; 06-08-2024 at 08:22 AM.

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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    A dungeon being cleared without needing a healer isn't anything new. Of course, healer mains such as myself would hope they would trend in the opposite direction, but it is no surprise that they have not.

    However, this right here is what pisses me off to no end...

    Quote Originally Posted by AnimalsALot View Post
    Not to mention if this is what "ENHANCED ENCOUNTER DESIGN" means, 7.x is already a spectacular failure.

    Also they're really just doubling down. I wonder if they all got long COVID at their office











    Words cannot express how infuriating this is. To not only double down on the ridiculous self-sustain tanks have, but to further step on the toes of healers by giving DPS jobs additional healing actions that are readily available every 60s is insulting. I am done defending this dev team. They deserve every piece of scrutiny they get. I understand that I am very emotional at the moment, and I don't want to make any brash decisions like canceling my pre-order, or even unsubscribing because this is exactly what I feel like doing right now. Hopefully Yoshi will address this, and I will give him that opportunity. I know the Japanese community has to be every bit as enraged about this s**t as well.

    His response will greatly determine what I will decide to do. Considering that the game still requires forced comps, I will remind the playerbase that it is entirely possible to strike. It is totally possible to level your healers without even touching group content. I know it's a longshot, but players can acquire the ability to fight back if they rally behind a cause. What I know is that if they don't course correct this BS, I just don't think I can continue to financially support a company who makes me feel like they hate the role I love.
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Considering that the game still requires forced comps, I will remind the playerbase that it is entirely possible to strike. It is totally possible to level your healers without even touching group content.
    I'm in! I've leveled other jobs by changing jobs inside a Frontline and doing Wondrous Tales, I can do it again. SMN takes care of SCH leveling and then it's just 3 other jobs. You will not see me heal another dungeon until this is fixed.

    So sick of healers being garbage while tanks and dps get more and more healing skills every expansion.
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Words cannot express how infuriating this is. To not only double down on the ridiculous self-sustain tanks have, but to further step on the toes of healers by giving DPS jobs additional healing actions that are readily available every 60s is insulting. I am done defending this dev team. They deserve every piece of scrutiny they get.
    Welcome to the dark side
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    ~ WHM / badSCH / Snob ~ http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/871132/ ~

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    Negative Space
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    Seraph
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    Can't wait to cast Aspected Benefic once every 15 seconds and spam Malefic as filler, for another entire expansion

    I have a lot of problems with WoW, but man what I wouldn't give for some of their class design brains to leak into FFXIV...
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    My outline for a Chemist healer: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/513527-Healer-Concept-Draft-Chemist

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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    cast Aspected Benefic once every 15 seconds
    ?????????????????????????????????????????
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    Seraph
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimalsALot View Post
    ?????????????????????????????????????????
    What? That's basically all there is to casual content healing these days. Cast an AOE HoT/barrier (Depending on the job, it's Medica II, Succor, Aspected Benefic, or Eukrasian Prognosis), spam your one healer damage ability over and over, and refresh the HoT/barrier when needed. Unless the tank is undergeared or overpulling, they will passively heal through everything else.

    We love healing!
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    My outline for a Chemist healer: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/513527-Healer-Concept-Draft-Chemist

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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    Can't wait to cast Aspected Benefic once every 15 seconds and spam Malefic as filler, for another entire expansion

    I have a lot of problems with WoW, but man what I wouldn't give for some of their class design brains to leak into FFXIV...
    Jokes on you, they probably don’t even need that Asp Benefic. You’ll spam Fall Malefic for eternity & you will like it.

    We’re just around to make sure the Duty Finder queue pops
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    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."

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    Shara Dei-ji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Guess the healers aren't going to have any engagement outside of ultimate raids again.
    Oh don't worry about that, they're be playing Forums (Extreme).
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