Genderlocked gear. Again.

[1313]

Easy fix, just use a fantasia then you can wear the other set.

[Iscah]

Slightly off question but... the DNC's 'shoes' are the long tight-length ending on that star motif and the shorts (or whatever the male counterpart has) are separate? Because that makes it a bit less jarring since I believe there are a few options to replicate that silhouette with alternatives for males.

The DNC shoes are the thigh-length "baggy pants", yes. Which is why it's so weird that they felt the need to swap the shorts for longer pants when so little of them is visible.

[Sated]

The DNC shoes are the thigh-length "baggy pants", yes. Which is why it's so weird that they felt the need to swap the shorts for longer pants when so little of them is visible.

SCH had the same thing happen where they replaced new shorts with long pants only to hide them with the tall bootpants anyway... it just doesn't make sense.
Though in SCH case it looks like it might be a repeat of the RDM thing from before where it's still shorts but they put pants under them for some reason... before covering those with more boot. Male characters found dead in Tural due to heat stroke from wearing excessive layers.


Like we already have several hundred iterations of long pants so I don't know why they keep adding what is essentially the same pair of pants over and over again, esp when fem versions actually get new glamours instead.

I keep trying to think of what can even be done to get the AF's look for male characters. We only have a handful of shorts (most of which were added in Endwalker) and I think only two of them may be short enough for the SCH and DNC AF's high boots: the island sanctuary swim shorts which do not match the SCH vibe, or the load-bearing Expeditioner's Pantalettes which also don't have a very scholarly vibe but are probably the most viable alternative for both SCH and DNC even with the leather straps...

The tonberry shorts are closer in aesthetic for SCH but it looks like they might be too long to pull off the same look since the boots are so high they'd likely just tuck into them.

[Iscah]

Like we already have several hundred iterations of long pants so I don't know why they keep adding what is essentially the same pair of pants over and over again, esp when fem versions actually get new glamours instead.

Even with unisex glamours there's a dreadful degree of repetition of similar elements in the sets we get specifically for glamour. So many variants of plain belted pants, wrist-length gloves and business shoes.

[ZephyrMenodora]

I can understand the Dancer changes, since there is maybe a certain level of risque that they may not want to cross by giving the females the male look, and the males would look odd with the female look.

But why a male artist couldn't look well, more artsy with the crooked mid-drift I have no clue.

[Viedyn]

Easy fix, just use a fantasia then you can wear the other set.

I shouldn't be forced to change my entire character just to wear the gear they have been using to advertise a class. If they are going to design different versions of the same gear, players should have the option to wear either version, not be forced into one version.

"Less options and less customization" is never going to be the winning argument for any MMO.

[Lanntis]

Easy fix, just use a fantasia then you can wear the other set.

That's not an easy fix. Some of us are happy with who we are. In my case a Viera male. I already don't get hats. Now I'm being told to not be the gender I want if I want to wear designed artifact set we were shown at fanfest and during live letters? I have no issue showing my stomach, so why is that anyone else's business to determine I am required to wear a long black shirt OR change my gender with fantasias.. that cost money. These decisions are getting ridiculous. Seriously SE, stop gender locking and design gear that all races can wear. This has been a long time now. Years.

[GTK0HLK]

I can understand the Dancer changes, since there is maybe a certain level of risque that they may not want to cross by giving the females the male look, and the males would look odd with the female look.

But why a male artist couldn't look well, more artsy with the crooked mid-drift I have no clue.

As examples given before, just treat it like the "Dalmascan Drapped Top" it's open one males, and the gap between the Vests will be closed on the females.
(Assuming they don't do a Flames Elite Caster Set, and add a bra or chest wrap. though I feel such options go against the intended look of a somewhat open vest)

(If this game was a higher age rating, I'd be more than annoyed if that was a reason they didn't offer it. so many things offer a small "breast window" its alil ridiculous it exist in this <in NA> T rated game. which is old enough to not have issues with it.)

Not like everyone expects things to just be out and present, just covering. over the nonexistent nipple. (Which in the latest AF gear for BSM males, the chest wrap on them won't even cover the nonexistent male nipple. though with that one, the Female Variant will just stretch the wraps over the breast easily.)
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(Not disagreeing with you, just reiterating previous points how. Even if it was about potential Risqué, it would be so ridiculous if SE/CSIII did that. Since there are many solutions. One that offers the exact same feel/intent as the male version. the Other offers a duck tape level adjustment.)

[ZephyrMenodora]

As examples given before, just treat it like the "Dalmascan Drapped Top" it's open one males, and the gap between the Vests will be closed on the females.
(Assuming they don't do a Flames Elite Caster Set, and add a bra or chest wrap. though I feel such options go against the intended look of a somewhat open vest)

(If this game was a higher age rating, I'd be more than annoyed if that was a reason they didn't offer it. so many things offer a small "breast window" its alil ridiculous it exist in this <in NA> T rated game. which is old enough to not have issues with it.)

Not like everyone expects things to just be out and present, just covering. over the nonexistent nipple. (Which in the latest AF gear for BSM males, the chest wrap on them won't even cover the nonexistent male nipple. though with that one, the Female Variant will just stretch the wraps over the breast easily.)
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(Not disagreeing with you, just reiterating previous points how. Even if it was about potential Risqué, it would be so ridiculous if SE/CSIII did that. Since there are many solutions. One that offers the exact same feel/intent as the male version. the Other offers a duck tape level adjustment.)

More than fair. Not here to disagree either, I just said I could understand what they might have been thinking in only allowing so much sultriness. But yes there are easy ways around it.

I personally like Dancers having a "Male" and "Female" variant as opposed to a standard uniform more martial classes may have. I can see most of the other classes having very standard attire by virtue of what the job is, but Dancer's attire is more clothing and what is alluring on one gender traditionally doesn't work on the other. A lot of partnered dance duos usually don't have the male and female partner wearing the same thing.

I'm more on the traditional side of gendered clothing though, so these decisions work for me. I can understand those who prefer other types of personal expression and overall support players being able to express themselves how they want.

[Raikai]

I can understand the Dancer changes, since there is maybe a certain level of risque that they may not want to cross by giving the females the male look, and the males would look odd with the female look.

But why a male artist couldn't look well, more artsy with the crooked mid-drift I have no clue.

A more elegant solution for the DNC set would let males have the same strap that females have, but going diagonally across their chests instead. Also they could keep the female shorts too since it's easier to cover up with something else, given how bland the pants are for males.