Genderlocked gear. Again.

[SchwarzwaelderTorte]

(ah well Kathryn deleted their post but I will still react to it)

I mean personally yeah I would like to show less skin?
But because I play with a F model I have to carefully pick what skirts and dresses I wear if I don't want to be staring at my underwear everytime I ride a mount, because I'm not allowed to have tights or shorts or at least long socks with most of them.
On the DNC AF gear (both past ones and the new one) I prefer the color scheme and vibe of the M version, but I can't wear it.
Same thing with the Nier gear.
Same thing with the Neo-Ishgardian gear and its reskin.
Same thing with the GARO gear.
I would have liked to wear the Summer Sunset M bottoms too, I have enough bikini underpants already...

[Sated]

I would have liked to wear the Summer Sunset M bottoms too, I have enough bikini underpants already...

It's really disappointing that those pants aren't an option. I have a fem alt and it's so frustrating trying to manage glams when barely any of the leg armor matches it's icon. It's a wildly different wardrobe and the game gives you no hints until you Try On each piece.

In any other game it would be considered a bug for the icon and the armor to mismatch so completely, but people with fem mains just live like that?

All of the differences in that list bug me to no end... I really wish we could at least have the flowers and butterfly from the garo sets, like they don't even need to remodel those......

[PercibelTheren]

Honestly...SE somehow makes people feel 'forced' to play female characters, just because their glamour (and hair options) are almost always better.
I met several people who play female chars just for this reason. Because of huge frustration about the differences in quality between the gender models,
and not because they prefered to play female in general.

I mean..., I really don't get why for example the new Reaper glam has less difference in shapes.
Why the males don't get these little decorative holes in the trousers? That makes no sense. And it feels always like a slap in the face.
If you play male and Viera, you have maximal disadvantage for glamour. ^^"

Yeah, I'm often envious of my friends and all the gorgeous glams they get to wear on their female characters. It's not enough to actually make me Fanta, but it does get tempting sometimes.

[Reimmi]

Oh please give us the male version of the dancer outfit, that looks so much better
yeah i'm all for these being ungenderlocked if i can get that for my miqo

[HawkeScream]

Just wanted to add that I am also very disappointed by this. In a way, I hate this version of gender-locking gear more than two separate sets. At least with two sets, I know I can't wear one right-away, as opposed to seeing a piece of gear, seeing I can wear it, but oh! it looks... nothing like the version of it that I liked.

Please stop doing this.

[SpiritMuse]

There's two types of genderlocked gear:

There's the type that has two different items, each wearable by one gender.

And there's the type that has only one item, technically wearable by both, but it looks wildly different depending on which gender wears it.

They've taken amazing steps resolving the genderlocks of the first type. The second type, however, seems to only be getting worse, and it's not a good development.

[Merunari]

I would have liked to wear the Summer Sunset M bottoms too, I have enough bikini underpants already...

If I may offer another example of this specifically: the Endless Summer set from 2018. It's not just the shirt and bottoms, even the shoes are different, because apparently women need cute sandals and can't just wear standard flip-flops.

[Iscah]

If I may offer another example of this specifically: the Endless Summer set from 2018. It's not just the shirt and bottoms, even the shoes are different, because apparently women need cute sandals and can't just wear standard flip-flops.

Meanwhile, the male version of the shoes from that set inexplicably uses the "muted" version of the dye colour while the female version uses the direct colour.

One time I fantasiaed an alt from a female character to male, and I had set up a cute beach outfit with that set which I expected to look different-but-also-cute once genderswapped, but the shoes turned from red to pink and ruined it. :/

[SchwarzwaelderTorte]

If I may offer another example of this specifically: the Endless Summer set from 2018. It's not just the shirt and bottoms, even the shoes are different, because apparently women need cute sandals and can't just wear standard flip-flops.

Ooooh right I completely forgot about the flip-flops... I was thinking "hmm, maybe it's because by default all F models wear heels even when not wearing anything, so it's harder to implement?" (iirc that's why they took a while to release Viera, and also why the 2B boots look really weird with some animations), but with all the Island Sanctuary glamour most shoes are flat, so...
Maybe it only took them a while to find a workaround and we'll get... FF themed flip flops next summer, idk.

[Raikai]

Slightly off question but... the DNC's 'shoes' are the long tight-length ending on that star motif and the shorts (or whatever the male counterpart has) are separate? Because that makes it a bit less jarring since I believe there are a few options to replicate that silhouette with alternatives for males.

I don't mind the top, though, but I gotta say the default black-pink combination the male has is defnitely horrible because it looks like a mix-and match with something else. The default gradient should've had a very dark blue > Fuchsia scheme to blend better.