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    GTK0HLK's Avatar
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    Selene Halflight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenchild View Post
    Yes, I would prefer to remove the ears for the ability to wear stuff.
    I was always fine with miqo ears cut off, in exchange to be able to wear certain headpieces.

    But common...
    I really don't like it how people in this forums are not able to stay with the topic.
    It's about gendered gear. Not about personal prefernce for race restrictions.

    I just made a side comment about male Viera can wear the smallest number of pieces.
    But I don't know why we are talking about this, when the theme of this thread is different quality for gender models.

    Such useless discussions are one reason why actual feedback stays unseen. Who want's to fight through pages full of offtopic discussion?
    I read not much here in this forum because most threads are full of offtopic stuff. x3
    I didn't say anything earlier, but in the end you both kept it going.

    Which, at least you both got a understanding or viewpoint for yourselves.

    Some adjacency is fine(from my POV) if it fits the topic. (Like GenderLock <-> Role/Job Unlock adjacency)

    Just like Racial traits and Race being adjacent to HigherVfx transformations removing racial traits, rather than morphing your racial traits.(Just like Zenos limbs did at the end)

    But at least we on rails again.
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    Vari Myste
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    I really hope they let us choose between the Picto tops.
    This is not the Pictomancer I was excited for and I can't overstate how disappointed I was with the reveal.

    This is particularly bad practice for situations where there is no alternative glamour to achieve the intended look (specifically things like artifact armor)
    Because the FF art team does this so often, there are no shorts for male characters to make the SCH armor match the F version - we cannot even glamour it ourselves to fix it, because there ARE NO alternatives. Everything is slacks or too-long shorts that will tuck into the SCH's very high bootpants.

    Artifact armor in general is supposed to have an iconic look and vibe, and for SCH and PCT that vibe was gutted for male characters. It feels very hollow, but more importantly for Picto:

    It does not look like finished work.
    This is a new job and its artifact armor looks like a sloppy, hasty edit.
    In fairness to the team, I think it probably was a hasty edit because so many were busy with the benchmark rush.
    But in this case why was it even changed? Why take the extra time to make it look worse on purpose?

    I was expecting to be disappointed by an edit like this, but we were deprived of even the bare minimum:



    Please at least respect the job's aesthetic when making such unnecessary changes...
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    Last edited by Sated; 06-09-2024 at 02:42 AM.


  3. 06-09-2024 05:42 AM
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    It's literally not worth it.

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    (ah well Kathryn deleted their post but I will still react to it)

    I mean personally yeah I would like to show less skin?
    But because I play with a F model I have to carefully pick what skirts and dresses I wear if I don't want to be staring at my underwear everytime I ride a mount, because I'm not allowed to have tights or shorts or at least long socks with most of them.
    On the DNC AF gear (both past ones and the new one) I prefer the color scheme and vibe of the M version, but I can't wear it.
    Same thing with the Nier gear.
    Same thing with the Neo-Ishgardian gear and its reskin.
    Same thing with the GARO gear.
    I would have liked to wear the Summer Sunset M bottoms too, I have enough bikini underpants already...
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    Vari Myste
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    Quote Originally Posted by SchwarzwaelderTorte View Post
    I would have liked to wear the Summer Sunset M bottoms too, I have enough bikini underpants already...
    It's really disappointing that those pants aren't an option. I have a fem alt and it's so frustrating trying to manage glams when barely any of the leg armor matches it's icon. It's a wildly different wardrobe and the game gives you no hints until you Try On each piece.

    In any other game it would be considered a bug for the icon and the armor to mismatch so completely, but people with fem mains just live like that?

    All of the differences in that list bug me to no end... I really wish we could at least have the flowers and butterfly from the garo sets, like they don't even need to remodel those......
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    Last edited by Sated; 06-09-2024 at 11:24 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SchwarzwaelderTorte View Post
    I would have liked to wear the Summer Sunset M bottoms too, I have enough bikini underpants already...
    If I may offer another example of this specifically: the Endless Summer set from 2018. It's not just the shirt and bottoms, even the shoes are different, because apparently women need cute sandals and can't just wear standard flip-flops.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merunari View Post
    If I may offer another example of this specifically: the Endless Summer set from 2018. It's not just the shirt and bottoms, even the shoes are different, because apparently women need cute sandals and can't just wear standard flip-flops.
    Meanwhile, the male version of the shoes from that set inexplicably uses the "muted" version of the dye colour while the female version uses the direct colour.

    One time I fantasiaed an alt from a female character to male, and I had set up a cute beach outfit with that set which I expected to look different-but-also-cute once genderswapped, but the shoes turned from red to pink and ruined it. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merunari View Post
    If I may offer another example of this specifically: the Endless Summer set from 2018. It's not just the shirt and bottoms, even the shoes are different, because apparently women need cute sandals and can't just wear standard flip-flops.
    Ooooh right I completely forgot about the flip-flops... I was thinking "hmm, maybe it's because by default all F models wear heels even when not wearing anything, so it's harder to implement?" (iirc that's why they took a while to release Viera, and also why the 2B boots look really weird with some animations), but with all the Island Sanctuary glamour most shoes are flat, so...
    Maybe it only took them a while to find a workaround and we'll get... FF themed flip flops next summer, idk.
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    Nia Niyah
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    Oh please give us the male version of the dancer outfit, that looks so much better
    yeah i'm all for these being ungenderlocked if i can get that for my miqo
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    Synnove Graves
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    Just wanted to add that I am also very disappointed by this. In a way, I hate this version of gender-locking gear more than two separate sets. At least with two sets, I know I can't wear one right-away, as opposed to seeing a piece of gear, seeing I can wear it, but oh! it looks... nothing like the version of it that I liked.

    Please stop doing this.
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