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    Pathetic Loser
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    The argument was about single target abilities being useful or obsolete, so I counted only abilities that specifically targets 1 tank. I didn't count any incidental AoE healing or tank mitigations.

    I only counted single target healing and effective healing. Excog, Embrace, Benison, Aquaveil, Nascent Flash etc.
    I checked my p7s clear using the same metrics as him and uh... wow.
    WAR DTPS 3162 STHPS 1244 (no mit) 2431 (mit)
    GNB DTPS 2572 STHPS 937 (no mit) 2618 (mit)

    My HPS on WAR incl AoE: 675
    Sage HPS on WAR incl AoE: 1910 (kardia counted for about 800 of that)
    My HPS on GNB incl AoE: 1440
    Sage HPS on GNB incl AoE: 1296
    My HPS on WAR ST only: 109
    Sage HPS on WAR ST only (not including kardia): 141
    Sage HPS on WAR ST only (including kardia): 955
    My HPS on GNB ST only: 496
    Sage HPS on GNB ST only: 370

    My top heals on tanks (incl aoe):
    GNB: 1. Rapture 2. Liturgy 3. Benison
    WAR: 1. Rapture 2. Assize 3. Liturgy
    My sage top heals on tanks
    GNB: 1. Kerakeia 2. Taurochole 3. Kerachole
    WAR: 1. Kardia (duh) 2. Kerachole 3. Kerakeia

    Yeah I uh... Think this guy just had really shit tanks and was gaslit into thinking single target healing is necessary bc his tanks wouldn't do their job. The sage did more healing than me, but like... the amount of GCD and oGCD casts we had to do was quite low. And the amount that were *actually* needed, and not just padding numbers... no idea. Definitely less than the total.

    That's my like, entire point here. We can definitely *use* our single target abilities, but they're not like... actually needed. Mit on tanks rarely matters unless you're trying to completely eliminate a bleed buster, which we did often, even with the warrior taking the shared buster solo (that's why the WAR dtps is so much higher)

    This also doesn't account for the glaring problem of... this is entirely w1 stats. What happens w2, w3 onwards as we get more gear and we're needed even less? AST's rng card system is what kept me entertained as the heal/mitchecks got lighter than they already were... and now it's gone, and I got bozo here telling me I should be happy bc I have even more single target stuff to not use once the initial prog is over with, at the cost of the only thing that made reclears bearable?
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    Last edited by Kissune; 06-08-2024 at 07:18 PM.
    I gave AST a shot, and it's still miserable to play, even to think about. Worst iteration by far. Praying for 8.0, I guess...