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    Quote Originally Posted by Jokerz_93 View Post
    I wonder what’s wrong with people.
    How a FFXIV mod/plugin (which works client side meaning that it affects only the user who’s using it) can affect your gameplay?
    Mh?

    How does a zoom hack affect you?
    How does ACT affect you?
    (Please don’t answer with “by gating people out from parties, cuz I can gate you out without using ACT after one run of the first savage you want just by using my special powers, eyes and experience!!)
    How does a dress mod affect you?
    How does a generic cheat (used in pve content) affect you?

    Just live and let go. Life is beautiful outside….well kinda.

    About PvP…that’s more logical to be upset but c’mon and be realistic. XIV’s pvp it’s like RPing in an FPS…you can do it, but there are other games in which you can do it better.

    About RMT.
    It’s something that affects more SE business than yours. I think they know what’s the best course of actions to take.
    Any SE’s lawyers and analysts here?
    Everyone else, please stand in line.

    Still, I don’t remember the latest PvP hacks and cheats that can damage others user’s experience (not saying there are not out there, ofc they are).
    Any update?
    So we can talk about something real with real names and not “TheCheats”.

    Appreciate real facts to be put on the table.

    Piece!!
    I can summarize the viewpoints I've seen:

    1. Console players feel left out/excluded from mods & plugins due to console limitations and would rather them not exist.

    2. People have issues with the venue scene and how sex oriented the game has come due to cosmetic mods to the point that roleplayers are excluding people on the basis of if they mod or not.

    3. Plugins ultimately providing an unfair advantage in raid content since they provide information that normal vanilla players don't have. For example there is a plugin that puts a mark over any players head that needs an Esuna.

    4. People using plugins or cheats in CC. Personally I got no idea about this one, I just play Frontline and know that the worst we get are pre-made DRK/AST parties lol.
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    Ultimately I feel people are valid in their complaints because it isn't really hidden anymore in the community that people use 3rd party and some have taken it to the point of using them as a deciding factor of whether or not you can participate in content/activities. So, I can understand it affecting people, even if I don't personally feel as strongly about it as others do.

    I also think it's two different things to exclude someone via plugin use vs. dps/whether or not you like them/etc (as you brought up). One is something that is completely unable to be attained by a portion of the community (console players) while the others, at least in the case of DPS, can be controlled/improved on. I don't agree with letting plugin use be the deciding factor in any matter tbh, it's just flat out unfair towards the playerbase that can't even use plugins if they wanted to.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 06-05-2024 at 07:56 PM.