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  1. #11
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    Zolvolt's Avatar
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    Zolmation Volt
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by hunter2 View Post
    I'd like if WHM had to do more Mana management but could also dump lots of MP on powered up versions of e.g. Cure III. I think mana management gameplay should still exist on at least one job.
    Yeah I mean evrey healer needs lucid at all stages of the game. MP regen is important, but it's also not interesting. It could easily be replaced by a dps thing to manage instead.
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    Zadood's Avatar
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    Melinoire Morandy
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    Kujata
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    Sage Lv 90
    Right... we can TOTALLY replace lucid dream with class version of it...

    Just like Raise, Ressurection, Ascend, Egeiro right?

    Now that remind me, why healer's revive skill is not a role action like Lucid Dream?
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  3. #13
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zolvolt View Post
    Yeah I mean evrey healer needs lucid at all stages of the game. MP regen is important, but it's also not interesting. It could easily be replaced by a dps thing to manage instead.
    how exactly would you suggest it become "more interesting"? a trumpet fanfare when you use it perhaps? maybe dancing pixies?

    I dont need a different lucid dreaming button for every job that uses it. makes things more confusing.
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  4. #14
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    Zaniel Taephen
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    Sophia
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    At least the skill actually has an effect of its own and isn't one of those "press this skill to activate the actual skill" skills.
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  5. #15
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    Saphir Amariyo
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 40
    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    how exactly would you suggest it become "more interesting"? a trumpet fanfare when you use it perhaps? maybe dancing pixies?

    I dont need a different lucid dreaming button for every job that uses it. makes things more confusing.
    Let it become something besides "press this every 60 seconds". I agree that Lucid is boring. Black Mage has interesting MP mechanics and it doesn't even have a use for Lucid 99% of the time. There might not even be a need for separate buttons per class, as an MP restore could be phased out entirely. Some existing skills would also make better alternatives. The old form of Thin Air which was time based allowed for some interesting synergy with swiftcast. If you could fit more casts into the window when it was active you would benefit more. WHM doesn't have much to use Swiftcast on, but if Thin Air became the primary MP management tool, skills could be built around it to make the class more interesting.
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  6. #16
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    OgruMogru's Avatar
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    Ogru Magnataraxia
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    Lich
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PyurBlue View Post
    Black Mage has interesting MP mechanics
    * soon to be used to have interesting MP mechanics /cry
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  7. #17
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I really think they should remove MP and replaced it with a real new gauges for healers.

    BLM could have its own MP gauge since it's the only jobs that actively plays with it.
    RDM&SMN can just get rid of the cost, if anything MP cost stops them from trying a fast GCD.

    Healers could have something else to manage, maybe cleric stance in a new form.

    Beyond BLM, I doubt anyone finds MP management funny or engaging.
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  8. #18
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Nowadays LD is basically just a death recovery tool, because even as a res MP backup is a bit worthless for 2 reasons: 1) Healers don't have to spend GCDs to heal most of the requirements, so there's a lot of spare MP 2) For High End, rezzing is pointless in many stages of the fights because how often we have body count mechanics
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  9. #19
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    Zira Zira
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    Jenova
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    But it's the most important BLU ability.
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  10. #20
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    Callisto E'elyaa
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 100
    for RDM they could change (e.)reprise to restore 2-5% mp and it would solve that (could also put that on melee combos)
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