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    If SE wants to keep positionals then positionals needs to be worth performing and be better designed into the kit, instead of just tacked onto the melee role, in a combat system that has been increasingly designed to disparage positionals. At present, I'd prefer SE throw away the tattered remains of positionals and work more on making intricate and complex rotations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    If SE wants to keep positionals then positionals needs to be worth performing and be better designed into the kit, instead of just tacked onto the melee role, in a combat system that has been increasingly designed to disparage positionals. At present, I'd prefer SE throw away the tattered remains of positionals and work more on making intricate and complex rotations.
    Problem is they are not gonna work on anything, all they do recently is remove and I don't want them to remove positional just to be given an IOU a mechanic or complex rotations 3 expansions later pinky promise from YP.
    If they're gonna remove my positionals then I also want them to hand me that new complex rotation or new mechanic in the same patch, and with plenty of info ahead of time for feedback.
    So right now I would rather play it safe and just keep my fun positionals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    Problem is they are not gonna work on anything, all they do recently is remove and I don't want them to remove positional just to be given an IOU mechanic or complex rotations 3 expansions later pinky promise from YP.
    If they're gonna remove my positionals then I also want them to hand me that new complex rotation or new mechanic in the same patch, and with plenty of info ahead of time for feedback.
    So right now I would rather play it safe and just keep my fun positionals.
    That's sadly the only decent argument for keeping them in my eyes, ahah. I'd really like for them to disappear but that would alienate a lot of people and yeah, we clearly can't be sure that we will gain something, or something better, in return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    Problem is they are not gonna work on anything, all they do recently is remove and I don't want them to remove positional just to be given an IOU a mechanic or complex rotations 3 expansions later pinky promise from YP.
    If they're gonna remove my positionals then I also want them to hand me that new complex rotation or new mechanic in the same patch, and with plenty of info ahead of time for feedback.
    So right now I would rather play it safe and just keep my fun positionals.
    Personally, I just don't see any fun or value in positionals in the current game state. I can live if they stay as is, it doesn't overly detract from my fun. It just adds zero meaningful contribution to my engagement with the game in their current state and would rather their slow death just be finalized and replaced already. I agree that given SE's track record on combat design and iteration it is unlikely we'll see anything meaningful in regard to positionals for the foreseeable future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    Personally, I just don't see any fun or value in positionals in the current game state. I can live if they stay as is, it doesn't overly detract from my fun. It just adds zero meaningful contribution to my engagement with the game in their current state and would rather their slow death just be finalized and replaced already. I agree that given SE's track record on combat design and iteration it is unlikely we'll see anything meaningful in regard to positionals for the foreseeable future.
    Trying to get all positionals in fights where it's more of a challenge in high end content is quite fun and engaging on DRG.
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    Last edited by Aco505; 05-14-2024 at 07:51 AM.