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  1. #251
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    Shuuli's Avatar
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    Shuuli Vondael
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    You say this, it's as if "FATE/Skirmish/Big money NM burning ridiculously fast" wasn't already happening in some occasions. The complaints in there becomes "Boohoo they don't want to wait for me longer than 3 minutes past NM spawning ; I was raising a straggler ; I just zoned in ; I was doing bunny"

    At the end of the day, people would choose to either adapt or complain when X objective are FFA w/ them ends up not getting their cake(s) after they bang their head using their preferred method.
    I dunno which DC you play on but we had a guy pre pull on chaos and almost the full instance started to shittalk them to a point it was almost witch hunting... I think their names were plastered on the BA discords so they will not be able to join unless they make their own party... a lil bit too much if you ask me, but they were not really helping their case when they said "i pulled cause i dont have time to wait right now"

    It may happen that we have ALSO griefers there, but it doesnt change it from griefing to non griefing.

    Regardless, I find the original OPs comment a bit over the top. "you shouldnt have to DC travel"... my man, If I want to clear ultimates on my EU account, or any savage raid, I need to DC travel. Since DC travel exists, Chaos is unable to fill PF. Its not that bad... it is a bit annoying that you cannot reach your retainers and cant talk to FC for a bit, but its still better than trying to do something for hours that fails to happen.
    Just hop to a low pop/ new server. Majority of the players havent even unlocked blue mage in some of them...
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  2. #252
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shuuli View Post
    I dunno which DC you play on but we had a guy pre pull on chaos and almost the full instance started to shittalk them to a point it was almost witch hunting... I think their names were plastered on the BA discords so they will not be able to join unless they make their own party... a lil bit too much if you ask me, but they were not really helping their case when they said "i pulled cause i dont have time to wait right now"

    It may happen that we have ALSO griefers there, but it doesnt change it from griefing to non griefing.

    Regardless, I find the original OPs comment a bit over the top. "you shouldnt have to DC travel"... my man, If I want to clear ultimates on my EU account, or any savage raid, I need to DC travel. Since DC travel exists, Chaos is unable to fill PF. Its not that bad... it is a bit annoying that you cannot reach your retainers and cant talk to FC for a bit, but its still better than trying to do something for hours that fails to happen.
    Just hop to a low pop/ new server. Majority of the players havent even unlocked blue mage in some of them...
    I suppose my point is, whether or not they're griefing, the fact remains that their current preferred method wouldn't do them any favor, so why suffer through that stubbornly instead of trying to find a workaround in the meantime (as many have tried to offer)?

    That being said, I do hope they tone down the boss FATEs one shots. (I don't know how -fast- this happened but like I've said previously, unlike the mob/item fate cousins, it doesn't offer the rest of participant more opportunities to snag credits and I think that one specific case is a little bit unfair.)
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  3. #253
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    VerdeLuck's Avatar
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Halicarnassus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shuuli View Post
    I dunno which DC you play on but we had a guy pre pull on chaos and almost the full instance started to shittalk them to a point it was almost witch hunting... I think their names were plastered on the BA discords so they will not be able to join unless they make their own party... a lil bit too much if you ask me, but they were not really helping their case when they said "i pulled cause i dont have time to wait right now"

    It may happen that we have ALSO griefers there, but it doesnt change it from griefing to non griefing.

    Regardless, I find the original OPs comment a bit over the top. "you shouldnt have to DC travel"... my man, If I want to clear ultimates on my EU account, or any savage raid, I need to DC travel. Since DC travel exists, Chaos is unable to fill PF. Its not that bad... it is a bit annoying that you cannot reach your retainers and cant talk to FC for a bit, but its still better than trying to do something for hours that fails to happen.
    Just hop to a low pop/ new server. Majority of the players havent even unlocked blue mage in some of them...
    The problem is some people are having issues on already low pop servers because BLUs are travelling to their servers to specifically one shot. People think Hallicarnassus is empty and they have free reign for instance, but it's really obnoxious for the people who's home server it is.
    There is really no place I can go that's more low population than I am already on in NA.

    This whole event and some of the responses in the thread have really shown me the attitudes and caliber of a lot of the people in the community. World events turn into PvP, players taking resources for themselves selfishly so they can finish a few percent faster, when people have issues it becomes the person left behind who is balmed.
    Where's the sense of cooperation? The sense of community instead of every man for themselves? Given how this goes I really hope we don't get any more large scale player content because the community cannot be trusted to not just be super selfish and shut other players out, then meme about it on the forums.
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    Last edited by VerdeLuck; 05-07-2024 at 11:18 AM.

  4. #254
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    Hatori_Elric's Avatar
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    Swatgod Tia
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    Coeurl
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    Dancer Lv 100
    i have literally had cases where i started a fate and a Blu, seeing i was doing the fate, instant killed everything the second they dropped down knowing full well what they were doing.

    I have begun to instantly report Blu that do this, it may go no where but enough people report other players doing this may provoke the GMs to handle this situation somehow. because i share the same sentiments as the OP.

    I know people are free to choose what works, but it is one thing to use abilities to help, but another to use specific ones known to instantly kill anything in the fate on purpose to prevent anyone else from getting credit for the fate.

    I feel considering how people tend to abuse the way BLU works, that it needs to be dealt with somehow to make things far more fair for all involved in these kinds of instances, like they have done with duty finder.
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  5. #255
    Player Nyxs's Avatar
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    Koyuki Himekawa
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    Malboro
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    Conjurer Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Hatori_Elric View Post
    i have literally had cases where i started a fate and a Blu, seeing i was doing the fate, instant killed everything the second they dropped down knowing full well what they were doing.

    I have begun to instantly report Blu that do this, it may go no where but enough people report other players doing this may provoke the GMs to handle this situation somehow. because i share the same sentiments as the OP.

    I know people are free to choose what works, but it is one thing to use abilities to help, but another to use specific ones known to instantly kill anything in the fate on purpose to prevent anyone else from getting credit for the fate.

    I feel considering how people tend to abuse the way BLU works, that it needs to be dealt with somehow to make things far more fair for all involved in these kinds of instances, like they have done with duty finder.
    You are reporting people for doing a fate? People really are sad human beings. It wont go anywhere no because they aren’t breaking any rules by using a job for a fate. All you are doing is wasting GM’s time and delaying help for actual real problems that are going on. How about we dont do that?
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  6. #256
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Patesaupesto View Post
    I use to leave a fate before it's over to run to the next one, people will quickly end the fate, i start the next one solo, get enough contrib, and repeat
    Seems selfish but it ain't at all, since I take just enough contrib for me and let everything else to the others instead of tryharding and getting as much as I can
    Yeah, if I see someone land in the fate when I've already done half of it? They can do their own half, I'm not staying. People on this forum called me a leech a few years back for doing that and not finishing the fates, lmao. Complainers need to pick a lane.
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    Last edited by Reinha; 05-07-2024 at 09:03 PM.

  7. #257
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    Taliriah's Avatar
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    Makoto Hinata
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    Louisoix
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Remove blue from fate content or seriously synch their skills down as well as damage as it would be for anyone else.
    why do you want fates to be long, boring and grindy?
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  8. #258
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    VictorSpoils's Avatar
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    Victor Spoils
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    Coeurl
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    I think it's griefing when people just get Nightbloom and never touch the job again, but oh well.
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  9. #259
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    Spirit Plainswalker
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    Brynhildr
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    All I can say is I managed to get 1, yes 1 legendary medal the entire time (and quite literally the last one I needed to finish the last weapon set) out of all the times that I got stuck with a blue mage in the same fate with me. Got so ridiculous that I started leaving zones just because I would realize a blue mage was there.

    So glad I am done with that event. And to think, the game is about to add another limited job sometime during the next expansion. May the gods have mercy on the hate that will generate when the time comes.
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  10. #260
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    Taliriah's Avatar
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    Makoto Hinata
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    Louisoix
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RealHounder1971 View Post
    out of all the times that I got stuck with a blue mage in the same fate with me
    That's anecdotal unless you can give us the number of times that happened versus the total amount of fates you have ran. (And also how many different BLU mages it happened with)
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