Feelings on FF14's Trinity System?

[ty_taurus]

Whining aside, I just don't consider punishing the tank for essentially doing their job is a good design idea.
It's basically just bringing back the tank stance penalty but without the option of turning it off.

Punishment mechanics are fine when you can actually do something about it, you can't not have a main tank.

Why is it a "punishment" though? If it's factored in as an expectation of the role, how is that any different than the difference in DPS between roles, or even sub roles of DPS? Also, you do have an entire rest of a kit to potentially play around with. While one action might offer less damage while main tanking, another could offer more. You could have multiple tools that shift in value depending on what position you're at as a Tank, and trying to reserve resources for when you're one or the other could become a new aspect of skill expression.

[Absurdity]

Why is it a "punishment" though? If it's factored in as an expectation of the role, how is that any different than the difference in DPS between roles, or even sub roles of DPS?

Yes, because this isn't a difference between roles or even sub roles, it's the exact same role but you do less damage by actually performing your role. Like I said, that's just old tank stance but with no option to turn it off.

Also, you do have an entire rest of a kit to potentially play around with. While one action might offer less damage while main tanking, another could offer more. You could have multiple tools that shift in value depending on what position you're at as a Tank, and trying to reserve resources for when you're one or the other could become a new aspect of skill expression.

Your initial proposal included none of that. You just talked about an attack doing either more enmity or more damage depending on whether or not you're main or off tank.

[ty_taurus]

Your initial proposal included none of that. You just talked about an attack doing either more enmity or more damage depending on whether or not you're main or off tank.

Was there some sort of force stopping you from coming to that conclusion yourself? If one idea posted on a forum thread is compelling enough to engage you in discussion regarding it, then I would think it isn't hard to look at an example of an idea and consider what factors might need to apply in order for that idea to function, even if different from mine. Doesn't mean that end result would work and/or be an idea you'd be in favor of 100% of the time, but assuming one idea shared on a thread can only exist as exclusively what is posted and nothing else just seems so dogmatic.