Yo-Kai Event: BLU Major Griefing Problem

[Reinha]

Do we really know what the intended purpose was? Has it been explicitly stated. I would say there's evidence to the contrary as BLU gets dramatically reduced experience from FATEs compared to just normal mob kills.

"to learn and use the monster's abilities that could potentially break the balance of the game" is pretty clear. If you can learn a spell, the intention is that you can use it. If you are able to one-shot a fate boss that has not been made immune like some other fate bosses have, the intention is that BLUs can one-shot that specific fate.

[Aidorouge]

Between this and the Fall Guys event, I'm starting to think maybe it's better if they just merged the Dynamis server into the other ones, because it seems our "identity" at this point is just to be used and mocked.

[Nyxs]

People saying they need to fix it. There isn’t anything to fix. BLU only get a few things to exceed in,this is one of them.

[Sjol]

"to learn and use the monster's abilities that could potentially break the balance of the game" is pretty clear. If you can learn a spell, the intention is that you can use it. If you are able to one-shot a fate boss that has not been made immune like some other fate bosses have, the intention is that BLUs can one-shot that specific fate.

I would make a distinction between things they intend and things they haven't gotten around to. They may think FATE bosses should be immune to Missile, e.g., but just haven't gotten around to changing their configuration because it's not a high priority compared to everything else.

[VerdeLuck]

I really don't think people want to die on the hill of "if I can do it in game it should be 100% allowed" because that's how you get SE to severely nerf BLU so they can't grief in events ever again.

besides there are plenty of things that you can do in game that are still banned and you shouldn't do. you could rescue grab a random person and pull them into an instant kill aoe, but you're going to get banned for it. You could bait a monster into killing someone in Eureka and refuse to rez them so they have to delevel and slow their progress in the content, you are going to get punished for it though.
you could shirk a healer and get them killed but you're going to get punished for it.

I mean, if you guys want SE to put all the guard rails up and make it so you absolutely could never ever grief another player in game even if you tried they might be happy to oblige but you should be aware what you're getting yourself into.

[AmiableApkallu]

If a BLU or three is going around one-shotting everything before other folks can get a hit in... maybe just ask them kindly if they don't mind waiting a moment for others? While I'm sure there's at least one discourteous BLU out there, I bet most would be willing to work with others.

[VerdeLuck]

If a BLU or three is going around one-shotting everything before other folks can get a hit in... maybe just ask them kindly if they don't mind waiting a moment for others? While I'm sure there's at least one discourteous BLU out there, I bet most would be willing to work with others.

I have tried and when you do this you get a snarky reply back or a "git gud". They know what they're doing, it's on purpose.
Getting people to whine and beg them to stop is the point of trolls like this. Getting people upset that they're going to miss out on rewards for the Yokai watch event is the point.

[ZiraZ]

I really don't think people want to die on the hill of "if I can do it in game it should be 100% allowed" because that's how you get SE to severely nerf BLU so they can't grief in events ever again.

besides there are plenty of things that you can do in game that are still banned and you shouldn't do. you could rescue grab a random person and pull them into an instant kill aoe, but you're going to get banned for it. You could bait a monster into killing someone in Eureka and refuse to rez them so they have to delevel and slow their progress in the content, you are going to get punished for it though.
you could shirk a healer and get them killed but you're going to get punished for it.

I mean, if you guys want SE to put all the guard rails up and make it so you absolutely could never ever grief another player in game even if you tried they might be happy to oblige but you should be aware what you're getting yourself into.

Do you have any evidence blu mages are out there just 1 shotting bosses to grief people?
Doing something to maliciously kill a player is not the same as speeding up a farm.
If I see my entire party got the tag I'm killing it, no reason to wait for the entire datacenter to arrive when I don't even know when they are.
Parties are constantly being created and disbanded, keeping a giant multi-party blob grouped up is not feasible, it's normal for parties to go all over the place out of a loop.

[Sesera]

Do you have any evidence blu mages are out there just 1 shotting bosses to grief people?
Doing something to maliciously kill a player is not the same as speeding up a farm.
If I see my entire party got the tag I'm killing it, no reason to wait for the entire datacenter to arrive when I don't even know when they are.
Parties are constantly being created and disbanded, keeping a giant multi-party blob grouped up is not feasible, it's normal for parties to go all over the place out of a loop.

If someone parks their car in front of yours and you can't leave you don't care if the guy is doing it because he is a prick or just because he is naturally a jerk. You want him to get his car out of the way and not doing that ever again.

That the same for blue we don't care why he is making us missing the fate we want him to stop doing it.

[Ardeth]

By definition, most griefing is by the use of in-game methods. Like blowing up people's stuff on a Minecraft server to insta killing and hoarding FATE progression. It's an absolutely toxic thing to do, but unfortunately, they aren't breaking any rules. They aren't playing in an unintended fashion. I see a lot of people hand waving it away because they don't want to be lumped into the griefing pile. I just find this whole event to be a microcosm of disingenuous people explaining away how they did nothing wrong. And they will continue to die on that hill anyway, so trying to make them believe that completely disrupting the gameplay of others isn't griefing, but they will. And SE can't really punish them because it's not explicitly against any T.O.S. So here we stand. We have time to do it.

As Robert A. Caro said, "Power doesn’t corrupt, it reveals." These people were always griefing jerks. The event just made it apparent who they were.

That's all I got.