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  1. #91
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    Taliriah's Avatar
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    Makoto Hinata
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    I decided to level my blu before farming the fates for the event because honestly one shooting fates and then getting yelled at sounds fun, so I went to farm level 50 fates (my blu is 50 and doesn't have those one shotty spells yet) without realizing those were amongst the fates needed for the event so there were a whole group farming the fates and it turns out that nobody was one shotting everything? Even the few blu mages who were present. So I got my watch out, got a bunch of medals and unlocked a few minions.

    Mayhap the good people on the forums are simply exaggerating about the whole issue? But surely that can't be, it seems so out of character for people to make mountains out of molehills around here.
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  2. 04-27-2024 01:00 AM
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    Pearls before swine.

  3. #92
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    Luluya's Avatar
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    Raminel Aubierault
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    Marilith
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    For me it's less an issue of them nuking FATES and more the hydropulling, if stuff like that is allowed in the overworld then things like Provoke should be as well.

    Also not directly related to BLU, but on the lower level FATES ranged jobs/classes can often kill the spawning mobs before they enter the FATE zone, which prevents melee from getting credit.

    All in all, I think this event is just a fine display of how perfectly terrible overworld content is in FFXIV.
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  4. #93
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    Oizen's Avatar
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    playing other games like yoshida intended
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    Character
    Alondite Ragnell
    World
    Marilith
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I completed the event and I had no problem with this, and most players ended up making it go faster for me.

    My general advice is:
    ARR Fates:
    -Join parties if you can as it almost always guarantees max credit
    -Play Phys Range and exploit their superior range to tag things faster than any BLU can, you don't need to get the kill just hit things once, BIG aoes help so I went Dancer but realistically any phys range probably works.

    HW+ Onwards:
    -Play a tank with tank stance on, enmity generation is factored into credit, or just keep doing the Phys Range thing

    Honestly by the time I hit the Stormblood fates BLU cheese basically fell off, it was still being used but far less effectively.
    Its really not that bad.
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  5. #94
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    ZiraZ's Avatar
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    Zira Zira
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Taliriah View Post
    I decided to level my blu before farming the fates for the event because honestly one shooting fates and then getting yelled at sounds fun, so I went to farm level 50 fates (my blu is 50 and doesn't have those one shotty spells yet) without realizing those were amongst the fates needed for the event so there were a whole group farming the fates and it turns out that nobody was one shotting everything? Even the few blu mages who were present. So I got my watch out, got a bunch of medals and unlocked a few minions.

    Mayhap the good people on the forums are simply exaggerating about the whole issue? But surely that can't be, it seems so out of character for people to make mountains out of molehills around here.
    Of course they are, I did all weapons in a single day on the 24th right during the height of the rush and I saw maybe 2 ultravibrations one shot bosses out of 300 fates or more.
    Missile one shots were also very rare, nobody wants to sit there hitting a damage sponge when they need to clear hundreds of fates so everyone expects missile use out of the blues to thin the hp pool down a bit, only rarely will many blues accidentally synchronize their missiles and accidentally 1 shot the boss when they all connect at the same time. Even then plenty of time to tag and get credit in a party as long as you are paying attention.

    They are just angry the blus are not playing by their slowpoke rules and can easily solo any fate without help.
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  6. #95
    Player Sesera's Avatar
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    Character
    Komi Shouko
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by Taliriah View Post
    I decided to level my blu before farming the fates for the event because honestly one shooting fates and then getting yelled at sounds fun, so I went to farm level 50 fates (my blu is 50 and doesn't have those one shotty spells yet) without realizing those were amongst the fates needed for the event so there were a whole group farming the fates and it turns out that nobody was one shotting everything? Even the few blu mages who were present. So I got my watch out, got a bunch of medals and unlocked a few minions.

    Mayhap the good people on the forums are simply exaggerating about the whole issue? But surely that can't be, it seems so out of character for people to make mountains out of molehills around here.
    Are every fates getting nuked by blue? No
    Did some players were forbidden to do a fate here and there because blue mage decided to be selfish? Absolutly and it should not happening period.
    (1)

  7. #96
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    ReynTime's Avatar
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    Character
    Princess Walk
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    This was already a problem the last time this event happened. They learned absolutely nothing from it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    Everyone blames the Blue Mages when it's clearly SquareEnix's incompetence.

    People aren't free of responsibility if they willingly do this type of thing because they only think of themselves, that's a very immature way of thinking.
    Exploiting features or tools you didn't create doesn't change the fact you're exploiting them.
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    Last edited by ReynTime; 04-27-2024 at 02:49 AM.

  8. #97
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    Burmecia's Avatar
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    Character
    Jitah'li Habhoka
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 100
    - jump in and compete with other BLUs, you'll get your mounts eventually. try less than primetime for fate chasing. try smaller server.
    - or just wait for week or two.

    only yokai atma farm i ever did was before BLU back in the 60's, and it was dismal. faster fates die faster they respawn anyway.
    (2)

  9. #98
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    Exploiting features or tools you didn't create doesn't change the fact you're exploiting them.
    It's not exploitation when you use something for its intended purpose. Being overpowered against low level enemies whilst synched to their level is the entire point of limited jobs. It's what they were designed to do and why they were limited from doing other content.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zhexos View Post
    We believe one of the unique traits of the blue mage is the ability to learn and use the monster's abilities that could potentially break the balance of the game. In order to bring out this uniqueness as much as possible, we have made the Blue Mage into a Limited Job that can be enjoyed alone.
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  10. #99
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    Zira Zira
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    This was already a problem the last time this event happened. They learned absolutely nothing from it.




    People aren't free of responsibility if they willingly do this type of thing because they only think of themselves, that's a very immature way of thinking.
    Exploiting features or tools you didn't create doesn't change the fact you're exploiting them.
    I can't wait for the next event in Dawntrail, forum posters will claim Beastmasters are manipulating the backend FATE code.
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  11. #100
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    Sjol's Avatar
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    Character
    Sjol Fantl
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    It's not exploitation when you use something for its intended purpose. Being overpowered against low level enemies whilst synched to their level is the entire point of limited jobs. It's what they were designed to do and why they were limited from doing other content.
    Do we really know what the intended purpose was? Has it been explicitly stated. I would say there's evidence to the contrary as BLU gets dramatically reduced experience from FATEs compared to just normal mob kills.
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