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    Shiro-Marusu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by twobear View Post
    I think most of us who think you guys are wildly overreacting can see the differences, we simply disagree that they are 'huge' and 'completely ruin' the character, who is now 'unrecognisable'. If I have to look at two more pictures of 99% identical catgirls and be told that they 'don't even look remotely similar' I will spontaneously combust.
    I'm actually curious now what you think of the differences as highlighted in my posts here and here (the sliders show more examples)
    Individually, the differences may be small, but add enough small differences together and you end up with an overall different impression, I would say.

    I agree I can't see the differences as well in many other examples but I assumed it's because I haven't been looking at those characters as much (some are very obvious to me though, even if it's not my own character).

    Whether other people /like/ the differences is sort of beside the point when people are arguing it no longer looks like their character, I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiro-Marusu View Post
    I'm actually curious now what you think of the differences as highlighted in my posts here and here (the sliders show more examples)
    Individually, the differences may be small, but add enough small differences together and you end up with an overall different impression, I would say.

    I agree I can't see the differences as well in many other examples but I assumed it's because I haven't been looking at those characters as much (some are very obvious to me though, even if it's not my own character).

    Whether other people /like/ the differences is sort of beside the point when people are arguing it no longer looks like their character, I think.
    I think you did a great job personally, I was impressed. But if you keep engaging in these type of arguments - it will never end, as some past conversations here showed. It only invites more provocation as a result. A never ending cycle.
    So it is obviously up to you, but ignore is a wonderful feature. I highly recommend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SongOfTheWind View Post
    I think you did a great job personally, I was impressed. But if you keep engaging in these type of arguments - it will never end, as some past conversations here showed. It only invites more provocation as a result. A never ending cycle.
    So it is obviously up to you, but ignore is a wonderful feature. I highly recommend.
    Hm, you may be right. I suppose I was just curious how others perceived the differences I pointed out as for me they seem more obvious than others I've seen. Not like it's a competition of any kind of course, but I was wondering how much of it was the fact that I have known this character for literally 10 years xD
    But I agree that perhaps such a discussion is off-topic. I do hope that if devs read this thread they will find the posts that are actually constructive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiro-Marusu View Post
    Hm, you may be right. I suppose I was just curious how others perceived the differences I pointed out as for me they seem more obvious than others I've seen.
    Since you asked, I took a look at your examples. There are obvious differences like the mouth and the eyes, but to me they all fall within an acceptable transition to a new model.

    In this image for example, I thought "he looks pretty cool in the update."



    It's not exactly your old character down to the last pixel, but neither was mine. They're both still recognizable as themselves and look like a spruced up HD version, in my opinion. If your character were my character I would be very pleased, but of course you're free to love it or hate it, it's your dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    Since you asked, I took a look at your examples. There are obvious differences like the mouth and the eyes, but to me they all fall within an acceptable transition to a new model.

    In this image for example, I thought "he looks pretty cool in the update."



    It's not exactly your old character down to the last pixel, but neither was mine. They're both still recognizable as themselves and look like a spruced up HD version, in my opinion. If your character were my character I would be very pleased, but of course you're free to love it or hate it, it's your dude.
    I appreciate the feedback, and I see what you mean. There are definitely angles I do like, and as stated in one of my posts above, there's obvious improvements as well. There's probably also a few things I could get used to if given enough time. I hope in the end we can all find a middle ground that works and makes us feel happy with our characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiro-Marusu View Post
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    Hello, I've had a male miqo main for a few years and I've used Face 1 for its soft features and to my eyes aesthetically appealing proportions of nose to mouth. At first glance of Face 4 I can already see that it's as if they took Face 1 and Face 4 together, and Face 4 lost alot of its unique identity in the process in my personal opinion. I gravitate toward's softer looks rather than harsh/angular ones- which to me is the main charm of Face 4. Even to someone like me who was never a fan of that face, I feel like the charming/defining factors have been lost/watered down.

    I feel like alot of other faces have suffered the 'the uniqueness is gone' compared to other faces in the same race category. I see it too in face 4 for female miqos.
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