Character graphical changes are NOT in an acceptable state, please make it optional

[4clubbedace]

I'm sorry and I honestly don't mean to be rude, but that is just not how it works. "Smoothness" in 3D graphics has very, very little to do with actual poly counts. It has to do with things like shaders and spec maps.

In fact, I strongly doubt the poly count has been increased very much at all. This is not a dig at the graphics but simply, you don't need huge polycounts to achieve better results.

thats not entirely true either, diminishing returns are there for incresed count (and we know that more "bones" have been added to the mesh as well) and all of them work together hand in hand

but you really going to tell me that a enneadecagon is less smooth than a pentagon? or how, saw, solid snake mgs2 isnt smoother than solid snake circa mgs1? the later if that bastard hedbutted me with his sharp ass angled head id be brought in deep cuts.

[Tethan]

thats not entirely true either, diminishing returns are there for incresed count (and we know that more "bones" have been added to the mesh as well) and all of them work together hand in hand

but you really going to tell me that a enneadecagon is less smooth than a pentagon? or how, saw, solid snake mgs2 isnt smoother than solid snake circa mgs1? the later if that bastard hedbutted me with his sharp ass angled head id be brought in deep cuts.

To achieve "smoothness" via higher polycount requires enormous amounts of polygons. Only an absolute amateur with do it that way. Again, I'm sorry but you clearly don't know what you are talking about. Textures are bad, get over it.

[AmaliaFuma]

I think the benchmark character creator for dawntrail has (Character Lighting) turned on, because theres no way to adjust it in the benchmark settings, and the whole character lighting appearance is very similar to how it looks in the live game when turned to 100% in the graphical settings.

The first image (you can click them to make them larger) was taken in the current live game, ignore the cheek tattoo, but she looks cute right?



The second image was taken in the dawntrail benchmark. As you can see the character lighting is turned way up for some reason.



But notice the eyebrows? Their grey and look weird, like they were stuck on her face, even in other lighting conditions it still looks grey and weird, compared to the first image.

The eyes look visbly more open, if you look at the pupils (the dark bit) their shown fully, whereas in the first image it is ever so slightly cut off at the top, giving the eyes a more almond like shape, and cuter imo compared to the update.

The eyes also have a fake eyeshadow above them, and a shadow covering the top of the eye itself, it looks weird and i don't like it personally. The eyes also look dead which alot of people have complained about.

The lips have no shine to them, very matte, unlike the first image, but that could be due to the character lighting being turned up, as it washes out gloss effects i think.

These things are very noticeable, there is no way you cannot see the differences between the images, the eyebrows especially, and the weird eyeshadows. My character looks way less cute in the update compared to live and i hope it gets addressed.

[Tethan]

I think the benchmark character creator for dawntrail has (Character Lighting) turned on, because theres no way to adjust it in the benchmark settings, and the whole character lighting appearance is very similar to how it looks in the live game when turned to 100% in the graphical settings.

The first image was taken in the current live game, ignore the cheek tattoo, but she looks cute right?



The second image was taken in the dawntrail benchmark. As you can see the character lighting is turned way up for some reason.



But notice the eyebrows? Their grey and look weird, like they were stuck on her face, even in other lighting conditions it still looks grey and weird, compared to the first image.

The eyes look visbly more open, if you look at the pupils (the dark bit) their shown fully, whereas in the first image it is ever so slightly cut off at the top, giving the eyes a more almond like shape, and cuter imo compared to the update.

The eyes also have a fake eyeshadow above them, and a shadow covering the top of the eye itself, it looks weird and i don't like it personally. The eyes also look dead which alot of people have complained about.

The lips have no shine to them, very matte, unlike the first image, but that could be due to the character lighting being turned up, as it washes out gloss effects i think.

These things are very noticeable, there is no way you cannot see the differences between the images, the eyebrows especially, and the weird eyeshadows. My character looks way less cute in the update compared to live and i hope it gets addressed.

I have a little conspiracy theory they might have forced character lighting on to hide that they did not in fact fix self-shadows in stark light, but we will see. If the option to change character light disappears in 7.0 I can guess why.

[AmaliaFuma]

I have a little conspiracy theory they might have forced character lighting on to hide that they did not in fact fix self-shadows in stark light, but we will see. If the option to change character light disappears in 7.0 I can guess why.

Character lighting should be off by default, i only use it really when i want to check colours and other details in the hairdresser mode, and glam reasons. It messes with the natural lighting otherwise, so hopefully they don't force it on with the update, because that would be baaad.

[Reinha]

But notice the eyebrows? They're grey and look weird, like they were stuck on her face, even in other lighting conditions it still looks grey and weird, compared to the first image.

The eyes also have a fake eyeshadow above them, and a shadow covering the top of the eye itself, it looks weird and i don't like it personally. The eyes also look dead which a lot of people have complained about.

My duskwight has the exact same issue with her eyebrows! They now have a smudge with a fully blonde streak drawn on top, when it used to have black in the mix making the whole brow look darker and more defined. Even when the hair is blonde it doesn't look good to fill in the brows with a white line, that's why I chose a face with dark brows in the first place.

Eyes are also dead looking because the top half is darker. If luster spots / light reflections are appearing right under the top lashes, light is clearly hitting that part of the eye. So why is it so dark?

[Roda]

My duskwight has the exact same issue with her eyebrows! They now have a smudge with a fully blonde streak drawn on top, when it used to have black in the mix making the whole brow look darker and more defined. Even when the hair is blonde it doesn't look good to fill in the brows with a white line, that's why I chose a face with dark brows in the first place.

Eyes are also dead looking because the top half is darker. If luster spots / light reflections are appearing right under the top lashes, light is clearly hitting that part of the eye. So why is it so dark?

Ah that's unfortunate... It looks like that black was supposed to suggest a shadow/3dimensionality and the color above it was supposed to be your actual eyebrow hair color :x
Now it looks like you just had the middle of your eyebrows shaved!! :x

(also, I think the top eyes look WAAAAAAAAAAAY better than the bottom eyes. They look way more alive than the cartoon "dot" shine with flat iris colors.)

[Reinha]

Now it looks like you just had the middle of your eyebrows shaved!! :x

Yes it does and honestly it's changed the character's face too much for me to enjoy it anymore. There is no gamma setting or lighting angle that will make my brows dark again and it is also not something I can toggle in the character creation menu.

[DiaDeem]

Um... barring the obvious lighter eyebrows...

I think the new eyes and make your character look very pretty, more unique, and a lot less like a cartoon. The glow in the lower part give her so much character while the top darker part makes them look deeper and more interesting... but that's just me though.

[Gemina]

I get what you're saying with the eyebrows, but the eyes in the top image are far superior to the eyes in the bottom image.