Viera Changes

[sintea]

I did, I checked through every light and she looks bad. She just does, I wish she didn't. Only place she looks "ok" is in the aetherial sea. And even there, when I zoom out she has a weird round faceshape she didn't have before. Her makeup is now harsh where it wasn't, her cupids bow is gone and her lips have gone from cute to sausages. And yes I did check the benchmark but there her nose looked crooked somehow in some scenes. You have a dark skinned character and most people I have seen with dark skin are actually happy. Your features are not erased in the same way they were for us with light skinned characters. I agree your character looks basically the same. Good for you. Mine looks awful.

I went and looked at your viera through your post history and I agree there is a difference for certain, especially with the color of the eye being most surprising change. And I can see the rounded faceshape too in the benchmark screens. I did notice the lips having been affected through all the faces and it's definitely a bummer for the one you use as it most obviously shows on that and is most affected by it from female viera options.

Hopefully they will listen to the feedback and are willing to touch on the details that mostly alter the appearance of the characters, like you said, mine came out of the tumbler unscathed but I know how it feels when a character you've accustomed to the looks of changes through experience in other MMOs where it has occurred when the game company decides to improve graphics, often at cost of player enjoyment.

[sydthegamer]

Okay, to preface this, I am not telling anyone to not give feedback, please do, however..

I can't help but also wonder if a lot of the people voicing their complaints have looked at their character through every background and also panned them around? I only question this because I see most feedback coming from people who choose to use Shroud for their screenshot backgrounds and it's kind of known for it's harsh lighting.

When I do that with my rava, the current lighting differences between the Shroud and Noscean backgrounds when I compare them, even with the character directed to (mostly) look at the light source, is huge. Below are before/after shots I've of her in Noscean comparing the current version with benchmark one, but I've also added a extra picture that shows Noscean lighting vs Shroud one.

Graphics are the same thorough and no adjustments to gamma or character appearance apart for hairstyle.





I want to say I lucked out with my female viera as I feel content with how she will potentially be come Dawntrail.

I used Shroud because I feel like with darker skin tones it really can make a difference when it comes to harsh lighting (and I personally like how my character looks in the harsh lighting!) I’ll say I’ve gotten used to how my character looks with the benchmark. The only thing I have a problem with now is that the lips don’t look as dimensional as they used to however all things considered I think they did a good job. I can understand why people say they look expressionless now though. I think it’s the darker arc they’ve put over the eyes. But now that I think about it, maybe that’s something consistent with the Viera race in general and not specific to FFXIV? However overall I think the dev team did a great job! I feel like my character still looks like my character, you know?

[sydthegamer]

I'm overall happy with my face 4. Skin looks fine in benchmark itself, face geometry is almost 1:1, except a little rounder nose if you look from the side.
Lips are worse, yeah. Hopefully they will fix that. And raven black hair is now grey even in benchmark itself, that's probably my biggest complaint so far.

Honestly love what they did with this face! I personally don’t use it but may make an alt with this face because of the changes made. Your Viera looks beautiful!

[Windfire]

So I found a thing with face 4 if you try to use a moustache with mouth 4 lol
Pic is far smaller then it should be >.< the 'stash get a lil triangle clipped out above mouth corners.

[PeriBunnie]

Joined the forum to help chip in on the Viera benchmark feedback!
I probably did not get shafted as bad as the others I've seen here.. (my f3 Male Viera is not safe tho)
But as of the current benchmark, I can safely say that I still prefer the 6.0 character visuals.

Here is my F3 Female Viera:

It looked like she matured quite a bit, which is not what I wanted for my character. F3 imo is supposed to look cute, sweet and young.
She also seems to be illuminated from the inside (?), like she ate a lamp. Overall she looks rounder and sanded down now..

The eyes and lips are the most prominent changes I dislike:

1. Darkened eyeliner/eyelashes looks very heavy. The black pupils are now smaller.


2. Shape of the lips. It no longer has the definition nor the gloss. End of the lips also looks like it is curving downwards, making her look like she has a RBF instead of the old upwards cupid bow lips.


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As for the male Viera... I shall let the picture speak for itself.....


And yes I have tried both characters on the benchmark cutscenes, it still looks bad.

[Loggos]

Square Enix really created one of the most beautiful mouth shapes when they came up with male vieras' face 3 and then decided to take it and yeet it into the void. :'|

[Luca_]

Square Enix really created one of the most beautiful mouth shapes when they came up with male vieras' face 3 and then decided to take it and yeet it into the void. :'|
Why try to "fix" something that was perfect before..

F3 male viera looks so bad that I'm genuinely hoping it's being distorted by a bug somehow...

[SquidzureDragoon]

I'm considerably disappointed by the changes to the female viera.

The skin tones are simply different and in the benchmark brown and light brown skin tones look washed out.
The lips and some of the faces are not even the same shape. The skin tones I can somewhat understand since the game will have a new lighting and reflection system, but why the lips and faces had to be changed? It made the female viera faces lose all their sharpness and look all rounded.
The eyes are also a major turn off, looking all lifeless.

If the expantion doesn't include a fantasia to fix the character after the update, it might make me reconsider buying this expantion.

They've already said that they're giving fantasias, but a fantasia won't fix lifeless eyes and waxy skin unfortunately, just like it won't give Moon Keeper Miqo'te their fangs back

[SquidzureDragoon]

Okay, to preface this, I am not telling anyone to not give feedback, please do, however..

I can't help but also wonder if a lot of the people voicing their complaints have looked at their character through every background and also panned them around? I only question this because I see most feedback coming from people who choose to use Shroud for their screenshot backgrounds and it's kind of known for it's harsh lighting.

When I do that with my rava, the current lighting differences between the Shroud and Noscean backgrounds when I compare them, even with the character directed to (mostly) look at the light source, is huge. Below are before/after shots I've of her in Noscean comparing the current version with benchmark one, but I've also added a extra picture that shows Noscean lighting vs Shroud one.

Graphics are the same thorough and no adjustments to gamma or character appearance apart for hairstyle.





I want to say I lucked out with my female viera as I feel content with how she will potentially be come Dawntrail.

I checked mine through the benchmark as well as the cc and he looks deadeyed and waxy in both, unfortunately. The lighting doesn't change that fact. I am genuinely happy for you that yours came out more positively for you though <3

[Daralii]

I have to wonder why there's such a huge disparity for some characters but very little for others, especially the weird alpha mapping and some ear/color combos making the interiors glow. I know I posted my character in the benchmark before, but I'll post a comparison. The eyes being duller without direct lighting is the only issue I don't have to look very hard to notice.