Viera Changes

[BustingWay]

I got lucky my female bun looks about the same with more details on the eyes and hair. The male face 4 completely changed for lips, skin, and eyes. Honestly....looks dead with oily skin.

If you main Reaper job then now is the time to join Bun Boi because you look dead too

[mixu]

This is so sad Dx The world looks great. I do rather like the new whiter teeth and sclera personally, some of the sharper details in the eyes too but it’s absolutely a downgrade overall and I would take the previous look in a heartbeat. Viera males didn’t need to be touched. I have 4 endgame bunnies and they look so rough. Face 3s especially, which was an easy contender (winner imo) for most beautiful face in the game, now seems flat, depressed, and oily. I was really happy for DT but suddenly they look like they Seen Some Shit (tm) and need intensive therapy instead of being ready for their beach episode.

*First off it’s pretty mind blowing that the nose shadow isn’t a toggle. It makes their noses much rounder and wider.
*The missing lip shine should be brought back.
*Hair texture might be better but it’s very dull, black isn’t black enough and also needs the previous shine.
*I’m especially bothered about the missing catchlights (which they should’ve added more of not less??)
*And their beautiful lashes and eyebrows have completely vanished! I would’ve added even more lashes/liner, not taken it away lol
*Tattoo is lighter and wonky as well the beauty mark on face 3.
*The weird shadowing on the side of the lower face is atrocious and makes it look dirty.

Please, fix this.

And yes I joined the forums just to see if others felt the same and post here.

[NascentDeft]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/ab4a7a0d...951c6a5ba5.pnj

The link above is to the full-sized image.

I'm going to start by stating that I'm not too upset over the new lighting changes for him. He still looks roughly the same and I can fix them if this ends up being the end product. With that said, I would like to point out what I noticed based on the Endwalker and Dawntrail Benchmarks.

• Shadows are not as harsh in the update.
• Lips are matte and appear flat with a lack of shadows/light
• The scar is more embedded into the skin than embossed
• More light passes through the ears making them glow in certain lighting

I know eyelashes are also a problem, but it is still visible in different light environments. Also, the Limsa area tends to add a yellow/green light depending on the skin tone, while the Gridania area lacks light making the characters look flat.

Honestly, I think the dead eye look could be fixed if Viera kept the big white shine instead of the two/three tiny dots.

[SongOfTheWind]

The glowing ears seem to be a problem with the half-folded 'lop' ears. specifically; I haven't seen anyone with the upright ear styles making similar complaints. It feels probable this is one of the multiple texture problems present in the benchmark. (ie. One of the hairstyles that previously had black ear tips for male Mi'qote now shows the markings so faded, they're almost invisible. Lalafel, Roegadyn and Viera nose markings are also inconsistently applied with a similar-seeming issue.)

Behold, upright glowing ears!

[Avidria]

Maybe it's partly because I'm not trying to replicate a past appearance at all, but I absolutely love the updated f viera (Rava at least, I didn't look at Veena) and think they look great. Room for improvement of course but I have a good starting point for a look to change to in whatever the final release looks like. So we'll see.

The weird glowy ears are funny though. Hope they fix that.

[Daralii]

Maybe it's partly because I'm not trying to replicate a past appearance at all, but I absolutely love the updated f viera (Rava at least, I didn't look at Veena) and think they look great. Room for improvement of course but I have a good starting point for a look to change to in whatever the final release looks like. So we'll see.

The weird glowy ears are funny though. Hope they fix that.

Rava still have the waxy skin issue, though it's more apparent in some lighting than others and with lighter skin tones. I can barely see it around the bridge of her nose and between her nose and mouth.

[Tethan]

Detailed comparison, please open the image in the new window to see it in detail.

- White eyelashes barely visible
- Nose shading completely changed, looks dirty
- Mouth flat and featureless
- Chin looks like a golf ball and is honestly very ugly
- Skin looks rough and dry

Overall impression is dull and lifeless. I can confirm this is due to new (and not improved) textures. It appears that the mesh/model of the face is completely unchanged.

[SongOfTheWind]

Detailed comparison, please open the image in the new window to see it in detail.
- Nose shading completely changed, looks dirty

It’s not just the shading for the nose, it is the whole form that changed. Look at the bridge or length and how it had a shape of () sort of, while now it is /\
The tip shape is changed, nostrils
It is not just the light, it is a different sculpture

[Tethan]

It’s not just the shading for the nose, it is the whole form that changed. Look at the bridge or length and how it had a shape of () sort of, while now it is /\
The tip shape is changed, nostrils
It is not just the light, it is a different sculpture

It is not the light but the texture. I am not entirely convinced the nose is a different shape, but it is impossible to say for certain without comparing the actual meshes in a 3D program. If it is changed, the difference is very small, it's mostly a matter of the painted details being very different.

[ovan20]

I'm considerably disappointed by the changes to the female viera.

The skin tones are simply different and in the benchmark brown and light brown skin tones look washed out.
The lips and some of the faces are not even the same shape. The skin tones I can somewhat understand since the game will have a new lighting and reflection system, but why the lips and faces had to be changed? It made the female viera faces lose all their sharpness and look all rounded.
The eyes are also a major turn off, looking all lifeless.

If the expantion doesn't include a fantasia to fix the character after the update, it might make me reconsider buying this expantion.