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    Oshirigami's Avatar
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    Kina Kiba
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    Halicarnassus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clover_Blake View Post
    Another face 3 victim here. I'm never going to play my Viera again (._.)

    This is another really good example of how much the lips and irises got messed up.
    And the one above this post, oh no.
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    Ange Azeroy
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    I'm seeing everyone post their vieras and i understand why they are angry, they are made to look soulless and they changed facial features that didnt need changing, but man... compared to all the others mine doesnt even look like the same person anymore... i'm so cooked

    These are the exact same presets.
    The black eyeliner ish markings around the eyes are gone. The skin is weird and oily and looks like wax, and looks flat. The eyebrows are lighter than the hair they are gone from my face at this point. My eyes are dead and the texture changes make their shape look different. The lip shape has been changed, and the gloss is gone (it should just be a base toggle on/off feature man), it looks like im wearing cheap lipstick.
    That does not look like the same character .....

    The lighting is better though but that is all for me really







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    Gale Eldingar
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTERNETKID View Post
    I'm seeing everyone post their vieras and i understand why they are angry, they are made to look soulless and they changed facial features that didnt need changing, but man... compared to all the others mine doesnt even look like the same person anymore... i'm so cooked

    These are the exact same presets.
    The black eyeliner ish markings around the eyes are gone. The skin is weird and oily and looks like wax, and looks flat. The eyebrows are lighter than the hair they are gone from my face at this point. My eyes are dead and the texture changes make their shape look different. The lip shape has been changed, and the gloss is gone (it should just be a base toggle on/off feature man), it looks like im wearing cheap lipstick.
    That does not look like the same character .....

    The lighting is better though but that is all for me really
    Man, the face 4 vibe has completely changed. It's way softer and lost its characteristic features. Ironically I may have to go from 3 to 4 to try to salvage my WOL but that only illustrates how far we have strayed from Hydaelyn with these changes.
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    Bramble Kron
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    Famfrit
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    Dancer Lv 90
    My viera is... green?



    His skin looks okay in cutscenes at least, but it feels like there's other problems with face geometries, especially around the eyes and the bridge of the nose.
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    Sunna Hyskaris
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    Mateus
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    Idk, the more I think about it, the more mixed I am.
    Skin just looks so plastic-y or waxy. You make skin look more natural by adding pores and bumpiness to it, not by taking a buffer to it and giving it a wax finish.
    And the bottom left lighting conditions just make her eyes look so glassy. As if my character got a madame tussaud style wax replica made.
    Additionally, no one's eyes are that white.


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    Naia Savage
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    Omega
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Im mostly annoyed how the black hair looks in the new lighting.
    But I think this will be fixed until official release. ...I hope







    Althought my character does not look exactly the same, she looks pretty hot in action
    If not that washed out hair color.
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    Nirzhi Baskal
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    Brynhildr
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    I think one of the major issues I have with Viera faces right now is that they've made the eyes the same. There's no distinction between Veena and Rava right now and you can tell, even if you can't completely recognize it. Rava had smaller pupils than Veena, and now everyone has a Ravan eye. My Veena characters look uncanny because of this change. If nothing else gets fixed, I want them to give Veena back their racial differences. The lips can maybe grow on me over time, despite being wonky, but it is so sad that a racial difference is being removed like this. I hope it is just a bug, because my boy looks different to me. It's difficult to tell because of his eye color, but I can tell the difference. It's more obvious on my girl, who has lighter green eyes.
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    Crenic Namalen
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    Goblin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Here to share my own thoughts

    I truly appreciate how much work the dev team has put into this. I am Extremely glad of how much better skin is lit up, and the light on the nose is wonderful. My dark skinned characters look amazing now!

    But like many people, I also have concerns.

    One thing I noticed is the light in the Character Creation screen is very Yellowed, which became most obvious on my pale Viera (My Au Ra friend was wondering why she looked greenish, and his pale base showed it off well)

    That said
    Any light in the eyes or lips is so directional dependent now, that in most angles the eyes look lifeless and the lips flat. In the Benchmark picture below, one of his eyes is lifeless while the other has a tiny bit of light because of the angle. Being something supposed to be wet, I hope they'll address this before release. The lips are in a very similar situation.

    Speaking of Lips, they are all now noticeably darker than before. I have lipstick on and I'm on the fence if I keep or remove it.

    I am very happy, personally speaking for my own character, that the bunny nose darkened skin on top is now more visible on face 3. But I know that is not everyone's preferences. However, the nose model looks more flared at the nostrils than it used to be, which I'm not sure if it's a model change or just noticeable because of the texture change for the bunny nose.

    For me, I don't mind the eyebrows being lighter, but it's clearly a big concern for everyone with light skin tones + light hair. Not to mention for those who enjoyed the more noticeable eyebrows, it loses some of the personality.




    But you can see how Yellow the Character Creator in Benchmark looks comparing it to current in-game creator, As well as how you look like in trailer:

    (Jaundice is gone form his skin)
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    Aelin Ashriver
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    Zodiark
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    I would like my Veena to have her larger pupils back, an option to return the twinkle to her eyes and something to give her lips more definition again!
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    Aerie Misael
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dancer Lv 100
    just throwing in my two cents as someone who mainly plays as a face 3 male viera -- i'm not happy with this graphical update. at all.



    his eyebrows are nonexistent (i chose the thicker eyebrows for a reason), his eyes look soulless and dead without the catchlights + the texture updates have actually changed their overall shape, his lips are dull and shapeless... not to mention the eyeshadow being faded and less defined? i personally don't mind the darkened nose too much but i know a lot of folks would rather be able to toggle that on and off, and it does affect the overall look of your character's face. they already hit gold with face 3 imo, so why the drastic changes?
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