Character graphical changes are NOT in an acceptable state, please make it optional

[Doopliss]

Same. I'm perfectly happy with my characters as they are, and the usual graphics complaints (textures, fingers, whatever) have never bothered me. I love the game's graphic style right now, and I preferred the look of gear before they started trying to be super detailed and textured about it. I'll take a stylised game with a nice art style over "realistic graphics" any day.

I have to agree with you 100%. I've been trying to be more objective and less emotional while posting, but as somebody who has played for 10 years and has many characters that were made with specific design goals in mind, I'd have never asked for this change. Although before seeing the results thus far in the benchmark, my worries were minimum because I trusted them to be super careful with this...and it just, doesn't seem like they've been careful at all.

It's true a lot of the changes and even actual errors are little things--but there's so many of them across all races that it adds up in a way that makes me feel kind of hopeless. It's been difficult to log in knowing so many of my characters may be changing in ways I can't even correct in just two months...

Really sorry for this dump. I love the art style of this game, and, admittedly, am very attached to it. I've accepted long ago that the character update would happen whether I wanted it to or not...but I'd appreciate if they tried more to stick to the art style, in terms of character features and expressions.

I know that there's a "this is still a work in progress" announcement on the benchmark page. It's just that, as an individual, it really feels like so much to correct in just two months. I wish we were communicated with more clearly earlier. All in all, I hope my worries are proven wrong, and it's just a temporary strange lack of quality control, like when they thought it was okay to snip off Hrothgar ears when adding new hair, lol.

For now, though, I'm going to try to make myself look at the forum less for my sanity, but I really hope people continue to voice their concerns, and that they listen. These little things mean a lot to so many, and I thank you all for trying to share them.

[Ancalagon_Blacktalon]

I feel confident I saying that THIS particular flaw is an oversight or a bug that will be addressed. They almost certainly didn’t intend to just make a weird line, haha. So don’t fret. It’ll be fixed.

In a way, it makes me oddly hopeful that a lot of the other issues people have aren’t final and are also being touched up.

also I think OP should go post it in the bug forum too, if you haven't already done so, to make it super obvious. small things like this are super easy to miss when you have a thousand more obvious bugs to go work on.

[coffeepotz]

I get the impression that these people either play only msq and then go to play other games and projects, or they are a fan of fantasia and do not get attached to their character, or, saddest of all, they simply do not care what their character looks like! I have no other explanation.

Probably not a good idea to strawman people who disagree. I played since 1.0/2.0 beta. Started as male dusk. I've changed every now and then, but I always go back to my OG character. I like the way the changes look for my character. To say "oh, well you must be a MSQ only or don't care about your character" is simply a poor take imo

[LlymlaenGreene]

Probably not a good idea to strawman people who disagree. I played since 1.0/2.0 beta. Started as male dusk. I've changed every now and then, but I always go back to my OG character. I like the way the changes look for my character. To say "oh, well you must be a MSQ only or don't care about your character" is simply a poor take imo

sorry, I mean a little different, some of the people who only play in msq and they don't care what their characters look like, if I can be more precise. I have friends who only play msq on the same characters and they are wonderful people, it's just that English is not my native language and I can sometimes get confused because there are expressions and meanings that are not the same in my and English, please excuse me again :3 I want to convey the idea that probably many who write that these characters are the same do not really pay much attention to their own characters and tell us in each topic that this is the future and we just need to accept it. They do not pay attention because they have no attachment to their avatars -and I have given possible options, in my opinion, why this is so, yes, I may be absolutely wrong and I apologize if I turn out to be ignorant :3
I personally see how these changes have affected a lot of characters and I see and understand why they are upset, because their character has smaller lips or less expressive eyes, but those people I mean just say, "LOL this is the same character, if you don't like it, then just use a fanta"
* A great solution, isn't it?*

[DiaDeem]

I get the impression that these people either play only msq and then go to play other games and projects, or they are a fan of fantasia and do not get attached to their character, or, saddest of all, they simply do not care what their character looks like! I have no other explanation.

Or maybe some of us are just legitimately happy with the changes? I've been playing this game for over a decade, I love my character, and I love the graphical update.

I get why people are upset about some things, but stuff like this is why I sometimes wonder why I bother trying to remain fair...

[coffeepotz]

That's understandable. Apologies if I came across as a bit harsh. Seeing post after post of people making blanket statements about the players who are ok with the change was starting to get to me, I admit. But I'm sure its going both ways. I hope CBU3 comes to a solution that makes as many people satisified as possible, including you

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I hath returned... to present us this gem of a finding:


"Wow uhh... I suppose exploring new world does warrants a stock up of KT tape? XD Y'know, for sore muscles and that, lol"

The hell is that skin texture? Seem to only happen in Gridanian Inn. Not only one but there are more to be found when you play with the lighting angle. How does this manage to not get noticed in quality check?

[...]It's true a lot of the changes and even actual errors are little things--but there's so many of them across all races that it adds up in a way that makes me feel kind of hopeless. It's been difficult to log in knowing so many of my characters may be changing in ways I can't even correct in just two months...[...]

Honestly, after sifting through many pictures of people showcasing what went wrong in the past 2 days, I'm getting too familiar vibe of those times when I had to discern between genuine work of art or AI generated ones. It's like, whoever's doing the quality check or making these design choices does not understand the point of feeling or characterization. I sure hope this is just my brain brewing up some pointless conspiracy & not what actually happened behind the scenes...

[Catwho]

Probably not a good idea to strawman people who disagree. I played since 1.0/2.0 beta. Started as male dusk. I've changed every now and then, but I always go back to my OG character. I like the way the changes look for my character. To say "oh, well you must be a MSQ only or don't care about your character" is simply a poor take imo

Right? 1.0 player as well. I couldn't quite get my 1.0 Lalafell to look like my FFXI Tarurutaru. I couldn't get my 2.0 version to look like the 1.0 version. And now I can't get the 7.0 version to look exactly like the 2.0 version. She's still got the same soul, and as long as she keeps her Legacy tattoo, that's all I really care about.

[Embran]

I hath returned... to present us this gem of a finding:


"Wow uhh... I suppose exploring new world does warrants a stock up of KT tape? XD Y'know, for sore muscles and that, lol"

The hell is that skin texture? Seem to only happen in Gridanian Inn. Not only one but there are more to be found when you play with the lighting angle. How does this manage to not get noticed in quality check?



Honestly, after sifting through many pictures of people showcasing what went wrong in the past 2 days, I'm getting too familiar vibe of those times when I had to discern between genuine work of art or AI generated ones. It's like, whoever's doing the quality check or making these design choices does not understand the point of feeling or characterization. I sure hope this is just my brain brewing up some pointless conspiracy & not what actually happened behind the scenes...

The character creator isn’t the final product. They have a disclaimer saying this stuff is still a work in progress. The build from the benchmark itself could be months old.

It hasn’t passed any checks yet because the game is still in development. It’s important to point these issues out, but I don’t think it’s fair to drag the devs for these issues when the product isn’t final. It's entirely possible they fixed this very issue weeks ago internally.

Now, come 7.0 release day and these issues are still there, drag them all you want.

[LlymlaenGreene]

Or maybe some of us are just legitimately happy with the changes? I've been playing this game for over a decade, I love my character, and I love the graphical update.

I get why people are upset about some things, but stuff like this is why I sometimes wonder why I bother trying to remain fair...

I do not dispute that there are those who are satisfied with this, if you carefully read the forums, that is, those who have not been affected by the changes, or those who have become really more beautiful, let's be honest : 3 and there are those who did not win this lottery *, including me* I will now provide you with some screenshots of my character with whom I have 850 hours /playtime and it follows that I am incredibly attached to someone * yes, I do not play with ARR, which is actually a shame that I learned about this great game relatively recently*, and you will say that you would be happy with this Or not? Or someone else tell me if you would like this character of yours to become like this * if he were yours*, because it seems to me that huyr midlander 1 has changed beyond recognition * I have many friends with this type of face and they are all just cuties, which you can't say after the update *

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i know the difference scenes and etc, but any frame in benchmark with my upgraded wol is terrible, yes :3