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  1. #331
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    SongOfTheWind's Avatar
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    Freja Heleh
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Evo1171 View Post
    I saw there was some discourse about my post yesterday and it's understandable especially since while to me this is a character I've looked at for years and yesterday it was a lot of people's first time seeing it so the differences are likely less apparant, so I'll give a short list of the changes as well as post a couple additional screenshots from the character screen to maybe better showcase how these small changes have altered the look of the character.
    I have a miqote character with the same eyes, I kept her unchanged since 2018 when I started playing, so I totally understand what you meant. It was instant when I saw her in the benchmark. It’s heartbreaking, it made me register here for the 1st time to actually post about the issue.
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  2. #332
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    KaiKatzchen's Avatar
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    Kai Ulric
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    Siren
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I don't normally post here, but wanted to add to the odd graphical glitches. SE needs to look at the beauty marks on (at least) bun boys. Mine went from a beauty mark, to an odd pixelated line on his face - other than that, he looks fine. But, yeah, he's always had this mark and I'd prefer to keep it.

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  3. #333
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    Embran's Avatar
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    Kitty Kattie
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 2
    Quote Originally Posted by KaiKatzchen View Post
    I don't normally post here, but wanted to add to the odd graphical glitches. SE needs to look at the beauty marks on (at least) bun boys. Mine went from a beauty mark, to an odd pixelated line on his face - other than that, he looks fine. But, yeah, he's always had this mark and I'd prefer to keep it.

    I feel confident I saying that THIS particular flaw is an oversight or a bug that will be addressed. They almost certainly didn’t intend to just make a weird line, haha. So don’t fret. It’ll be fixed.

    In a way, it makes me oddly hopeful that a lot of the other issues people have aren’t final and are also being touched up.
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  4. #334
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    KaiKatzchen's Avatar
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    Kai Ulric
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    Siren
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Yeah, I figured it would. It's definitely a texture glitch, but I figured if I posted it here it might be seen/fixed faster.

    Other than that, I feel I just have to play with his face a little bit, he looks kinda different from my OG bun bun, but not so different I can't handle it. He's just always had that beauty mark, and looks really strange without it. lol.
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    I'm just a bun boy, doing bun boy things.

  5. #335
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    Doopliss's Avatar
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    Reverie Arbeau
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    Balmung
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    Monk Lv 100
    Honestly, with very clear unintentional bugs added to the mix of things like that, part of my (extremely uneducated) copium is that they spent most of their time polishing Hrothgar models before continuing work on the rest. They look fantastic. Male features appear to be the same, and neither gender looks off in any of the new lighting, including the very human-like face fem Hrothgar get. When I'm customizing them I forget I'm not using the EW character creator.
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  6. #336
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I really hope they can consider shifting all of the "updated" faces over to being new additional faces, and start over with directly upgrading the originals.
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  7. #337
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    Arzalis's Avatar
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    Kemi Epoc
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I really hope they can consider shifting all of the "updated" faces over to being new additional faces, and start over with directly upgrading the originals.
    If they have time, that'd be ideal. To be fair, some of them are genuinely pretty close. I have no clue what they were thinking with others.

    My theory is them using a unified base mesh and building all the faces out from that resulted in more distinguishing features being lost or softened out. Those features were "genericized" basically.
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    Last edited by Arzalis; 04-16-2024 at 09:17 PM.

  8. #338
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    Ceetee's Avatar
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    T'sraetn Slein
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    Ultros
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    Miner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I really hope they can consider shifting all of the "updated" faces over to being new additional faces, and start over with directly upgrading the originals.
    In pretty sure I'm in the minority on this one, but honestly if they did shuffle all the new faces to being an extra customizations options, and then just left the old ones low poly (not even low poly. The current resolution is FINE tbh) to not delay the game, with a plan to update them later, I would he fine with that.

    I don't think they would ever actually go for it, but like... I'd honestly rather deal with a drop in texture for my face than I would deal with this complete change.
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  9. #339
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceetee View Post
    In pretty sure I'm in the minority on this one, but honestly if they did shuffle all the new faces to being an extra customizations options, and then just left the old ones low poly (not even low poly. The current resolution is FINE tbh) to not delay the game, with a plan to update them later, I would he fine with that.

    I don't think they would ever actually go for it, but like... I'd honestly rather deal with a drop in texture for my face than I would deal with this complete change.
    Same. I'm perfectly happy with my characters as they are, and the usual graphics complaints (textures, fingers, whatever) have never bothered me. I love the game's graphic style right now, and I preferred the look of gear before they started trying to be super detailed and textured about it. I'll take a stylised game with a nice art style over "realistic graphics" any day.
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  10. #340
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    Llymlaen Greene
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    Cerberus
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    Goldsmith Lv 93
    Hello again :3 I would like to mention these changes once again. To be honest, after watching thousands of screenshots, I'm still surprised by people who defend and justify the type of character changes, saying that this is how it should be, and if you don't like something, then just use imagination or take screenshots in a certain light, because your characters look the same, lol. For these people, I have a question, how do I change my character so that she becomes back who she is (the screenshot will be below)

    I get the impression that these people either play only msq and then go to play other games and projects, or they are a fan of fantasia and do not get attached to their character, or, saddest of all, they simply do not care what their character looks like! I have no other explanation.

    For example, I try to play every day, even if I don't do anything, I just text with friends and strangers, and even if I don't have the desire to do that, then I just stand afk. It's not hard to imagine that during all this time I've become very attached to my character and like many others, this UGLINESS (there's no other way to call it) is just disappointing. Does it turn out that we pay money in order for them to take away our heroes from us, with whom we have gone through so many adventures together? (I don't mind giving money to the developers, I even have extra retiners as an additional payment and don't use them, because I love this game and its community and developers!)
    Yes, it may sound naive enough, but I adore my character and after so many hours together I feel her as an extension of myself and, to be honest, I absolutely do not need your graphics improvements if they just change our lovers! Just give us the same characters in HD quality! Why do you come up with new lips, teeth, fangs, face animations, if everything looks great and works on any computers anyway (which is very important in fact and in my memory ff14 is the most stable mmorpg or even the most stable game in existence, it's no joke, I've been in the game the middle August and before the patch started in October, and all this time I was playing, chatting, crafting, standing afk, fishing, doing quests, even trying savage and just fooling around within the same session! I'm not kidding, I clicked log in in August and was in the same session before the new patch in October, what other project can boast of this? which once again confirms the stability of the game), sorry I got distracted :3




    so, I think that people's criticism is justified and they have the right to declare it and I completely agree that it is unacceptable to change even 3 degrees of tilt of the smile of the mouth, not to mention quiet new animations or short fangs, I hope the developers will hear us, I am even ready to wait for dawntrail longer if necessary or ready to take our old textures and faces as an additional option, because, excuse me for these obscene words, but I don't want to go through msq for this freak, and if they don't change anything before the release and return our charmers to us, I think I'll just have to be at the AFK before they give us OUR characters back!
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    Last edited by LlymlaenGreene; 04-17-2024 at 01:13 AM.

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