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    I definitely agree that the lips look worse across the board now. I also made a couple of posts, one about the bioluminiscent elezen ears and about face 4 midlander (which shows a lot of the stuff mentioned here plus heavier makeup for no reason).
    The posts, in case OP wants to add them to the list (both have screenshots):

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...dlander-face-4
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6437053

    I don't think making the graphical update optional is realistic, but there are definitely areas that need more work, specially the lips, the skin and hair textures and the "aliveness" of the eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ValG View Post
    I definitely agree that the lips look worse across the board now. I also made a couple of posts, one about the bioluminiscent elezen ears and about face 4 midlander (which shows a lot of the stuff mentioned here plus heavier makeup for no reason).
    The posts, in case OP wants to add them to the list (both have screenshots):

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...dlander-face-4
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6437053

    I don't think making the graphical update optional is realistic, but there are definitely areas that need more work, specially the lips, the skin and hair textures and the "aliveness" of the eyes.
    You really think they are going to delay the game just because folks aren't happy with the graphics update?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ValG View Post
    I definitely agree that the lips look worse across the board now. I also made a couple of posts, one about the bioluminiscent elezen ears and about face 4 midlander (which shows a lot of the stuff mentioned here plus heavier makeup for no reason).
    The posts, in case OP wants to add them to the list (both have screenshots):

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...dlander-face-4
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6437053

    I don't think making the graphical update optional is realistic, but there are definitely areas that need more work, specially the lips, the skin and hair textures and the "aliveness" of the eyes.

    I don't think the subsurface scattering on the Elezen ears is too strong at all. It's pretty in line with how I'd expect them to behave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eluvyel View Post
    I don't think the subsurface scattering on the Elezen ears is too strong at all. It's pretty in line with how I'd expect them to behave.
    The effect showed in the inn picture definitely feels like it's too much, at least for me. Also, it's not only the strenght of the effect, but the color not matching the actual skin tone that's the problem too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ValG View Post
    The effect showed in the inn picture definitely feels like it's too much, at least for me. Also, it's not only the strenght of the effect, but the color not matching the actual skin tone that's the problem too.
    I have to respectfully disagree. That is EXACTLY how cartilage behaves in that scenario. Here's some other examples of SSC from RDR2 and Uncharted. It looks identical IRL but I wanted to stick with video games. Just hold a flashlight to your finger, it's the same effect. If anything, it's kind of toned down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eluvyel View Post
    I have to respectfully disagree. That is EXACTLY how cartilage behaves in that scenario. Here's some other examples of SSC from RDR2 and Uncharted. It looks identical IRL but I wanted to stick with video games. Just hold a flashlight to your finger, it's the same effect. If anything, it's kind of toned down.

    So I'm not allowed to feel like it's too much because of what other games have done? Also, I'm mostly talking about how it looks on my duskwight which happens to have grey skin so the pink effect sticks like a sore thumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ValG View Post
    So I'm not allowed to feel like it's too much because of what other games have done? Also, I'm mostly talking about how it looks on my duskwight which happens to have grey skin so the pink effect sticks like a sore thumb.
    Of course you're allowed to not like it but you made it sound like it's just not looking right. As for your skin, it's irrelevant. It glows red because living tissue is translucent to red and near-infrared. All wave lengths of visible light get absorbed except red. The living beings actual skin color has little to no effect on this. But we should probably stop clogging up this thread now. Hope you all get a character you're happy with in the end!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eluvyel View Post
    Of course you're allowed to not like it but you made it sound like it's just not looking right. As for your skin, it's irrelevant. It glows red because living tissue is translucent to red and near-infrared. All wave lengths of visible light get absorbed except red. The living beings actual skin color has little to no effect on this. But we should probably stop clogging up this thread now. Hope you all get a character you're happy with in the end!
    Oddly Lalafell do not have this issue on their ears if they wanted realism so I find it an odd mistake on Elezen given it isn't present on the other long ear race.
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