Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
No one is claiming Premade requires skills; at least, I am fairly certain I am not
People joined Premade mainly to avoid players that are not trying hard and constantly whining.
It doesn't avoid players not trying or constantly whining so I don't understand that point at all. On the contrary, in my own experience, it only makes such issues even more prevalent.
A number of premades have endlessly haunted FL roulette repeatedly and for so long that they have become widely recognised and are often targeted with negative reactions from allies and opponents alike. They haven't avoided the 'whining' - they're fuelling it.
In good games where both of the random alliances have some semblance of sense and determination, they will both work together to focus down the premade alliance, doing anything to ensure that anyone wins except them. However, this doesn't always happen, it only takes one alliance to take a defeatist attitude or to decide to hand the win over to the premade to get 2nd place for themselves, and the only real chance of stopping the premade has been destroyed. This defeatist attitude becomes more prevalent when vs premades.