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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    I agree with Ty honestly that outside of raw button space on PC specifically bothering to count actions like AOW and broil separately is near pointless especially since healer AOE is near always a gain on 2 (except holy) and cleave is never a consideration in savage anymore. Controller players can take it a step further and use two seperate cross hotbars and replace broil with AOW on each one and just swap as necessary to completely functionally fuse the two buttons

    Healers aren’t remotely as choked on buttons as people make them out to be (WHM functionally has the second least buttons after SMN when you don’t count pointless skills like repose people always like to include to inflate button numbers), there is 100% space for more DPS options even before you start removing redundant healing buttons we don’t need anyway
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Healers aren’t remotely as choked on buttons as people make them out to be (WHM functionally has the second least buttons after SMN when you don’t count pointless skills like repose people always like to include to inflate button numbers), there is 100% space for more DPS options even before you start removing redundant healing buttons we don’t need anyway
    If I put LB/Sprint/Potion on my actual hotkeys instead of a sidebar (to prevent misclicking, from my time as a tank), WHM would still have 4 spaces on the bar. Merge Cure1/2, and Medica1/2, and that's 6 spaces to work with before I have to go into a 4th hotbar on PC. Even then, we have space for more buttons if SE gets creative with how they implement 'more damage options', but the problem with that is the part in italics
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    healers are there to heal if you want complex dps rotations roll a dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OogaShaka View Post
    healers are there to heal if you want complex dps rotations roll a dps.
    Wow we certainly haven’t heard this argument before and haven’t debunked it like 01929586019620692@68 times
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Wow we certainly haven’t heard this argument before and haven’t debunked it like 01929586019620692@68 times
    Ignore them. Its clear they neither care about what HEALER MAINS WANT nor care to have a discussion in the first place.
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    I'm tired of being told to wait for post-patches and expansions for fixes and increased healing requirements that are never coming. Healers are not fun in all forms of content like all jobs should be, they're replaced by tanks and dps due to low healing requirements and their dps kit is small for 0 reason, when in the past we had more options and handled things just fine. I refuse to play healer in roulette come DT. I refuse to heal EXs, I refuse to go into Savage, and I am boycotting Ultimate.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Quote Originally Posted by ASkellington View Post
    Ignore them. Its clear they neither care about what HEALER MAINS WANT nor care to have a discussion in the first place.
    Honestly, whenever someone rolls up with the tired old "If you want to dps, roll a dps" line, it's probably best to assume they're here to stir the pot and just ignore. So far, I don't think any of the people who throw out that line are amenable to discussion anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Wow we certainly haven’t heard this argument before and haven’t debunked it like 01929586019620692@68 times
    Given that he/she also posted https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...77#post6428277 i don't really think they are open to anything but "stand there and fill up my health bars"
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by OogaShaka View Post
    healers are there to heal if you want complex dps rotations roll a dps.
    Just like buttons are there to be pressed more than once every 10 seconds sir
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