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    Wolwosh's Avatar
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    Ulorin Ardor
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    What also doesn't help is that people are way to nice. I remember doing Sastasha at release as a Tank and I was horrible.
    My group chew me out even though I said I was new, which made me want get better fast xD
    Not saying that was the good way to handle a sprout tank, but every is so overly sweet in this game.
    If you say anything to someone someone will probably come to their defence and say be nice, it doesn't matter etc even in high level content, or the bad player will gets super defensive, even if you say something like please use your cooldowns Tank.
    You rarely get responded to with sorry and improvement.
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    Nadda's Avatar
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    Nadda Daweel
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    Louisoix
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolwosh View Post
    What also doesn't help is that people are way to nice. I remember doing Sastasha at release as a Tank and I was horrible.
    My group chew me out even though I said I was new, which made me want get better fast xD
    Not saying that was the good way to handle a sprout tank, but every is so overly sweet in this game.
    If you say anything to someone someone will probably come to their defence and say be nice, it doesn't matter etc even in high level content, or the bad player will gets super defensive, even if you say something like please use your cooldowns Tank.
    You rarely get responded to with sorry and improvement.
    Yeah, I agree.
    The game could do a better job of teaching players.
    However, our overall niceness has also atrophied players brains.

    Like an over-nurturing parent.

    It's not that being a jerk is something that should be tolerated... but being too nice isn't helpful either.
    What doesn't help is the game doesn't create many points of adversity for player growth and when it does try even a little bit we coddle people.

    We're like Eulmore! Everyone is fat dimwitted miquotes with too much money sitting in their night clubs while the world is dying around us.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nadda View Post
    Yeah, I agree.
    The game could do a better job of teaching players.
    However, our overall niceness has also atrophied players brains.

    Like an over-nurturing parent.

    It's not that being a jerk is something that should be tolerated... but being too nice isn't helpful either.
    What doesn't help is the game doesn't create many points of adversity for player growth and when it does try even a little bit we coddle people.

    We're like Eulmore! Everyone is fat dimwitted miquotes with too much money sitting in their night clubs while the world is dying around us.
    My personal stance is anything over lvl 70 the gloves should be off. It used to be 60, but they keep increasing the level of the free trial edition. If you can't even do a basic rotation at lvl 90 or ignore Aoe completely? Yeah, I personally consider you a bad player. But that's just my opinion man.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    If you can't even do a basic rotation at lvl 90 or ignore Aoe completely? Yeah, I personally consider you a bad player. But that's just my opinion man.
    So you consider them a bad player.

    Okay. What then? Being a bad player doesn't exclude anyone from playing through the MSQ or normal content. That is supposed to be content available to all regardless of skill.
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