Major adjustment to housing

[Khryseis_Astra]

if we could turn and S into M or L from inside, that could be amazing.

We’re hoping this is what is meant by the housing mirage they’re planning for 7.x… but we won’t find out til we get closer to the Dawntrail patches.

2. Allow ALL buildings to have additional chambers..many as you want again with an exponential gil cost attached.

Yes! I would love this! Honestly I’d be happy with one room to use as a separate bedroom for my small, but the more space to decorate the better! I’d definitely buy about 5 if I had the option.

I’d also like to see something like a company chest for personal estates for extra storage… and if they ever deal with the alt issue, and let all your characters share the house, it could become a good way to transfer items between characters.

3. Double all housing item limits - Small 400 - Med 600 - Large 800. This will make a lot of sense especially if you've ever tried doing anything elaborate with a large that didn't involve giving up a few rooms; generally because the break it down stuff uses sometimes like 20 items for a doorway. A lot of "larges" are just a really fancy bungalow like build due to the item limits allowing designers the needed creative leeway. This will increase the desirability of Smalls.

They are talking about increasing the item limits… doubling it sounds like a great place to start!

I know we probably won’t see any increases outside… one, they were careful to say “interior,” and two, the permanently loaded wards take up more space than our instanced interiors. But I’d still like to see an increase there… maybe something modest, like an extra 10 slots across the board?

4. Provide more than 1 layout option. Currently all houses are inside a CUBE but why not a rectangle? Or hell a cylinder! Rather than a small having stairs to a basement...why not an attic? Or perhaps a 2nd room though a hall from the first? Again have an architect permit cost of a 100k or something?

Another thing I’d definitely like to see… even the ability to change where the staircases go would be amazing!

I’d also like to see different sizes and layouts for the additional chambers/FC rooms/apartments… they’ve been long overdue for an upgrade, and if we could add on rooms to personals, it would be nice to have a range of different layout options there too!

[Khryseis_Astra]

Also, how could I forget?! An XYZ axis so we can place things wherever we want! At least for the interior… there’s no good reason to not be able to place anything on a loft!

[SXTC]

You are seriously underestimating the stubbornness of Japanese culture. If the community says SE did something wrong or something needs to change SE will just double down and claim they are right or give an excuse as to why they can't do it; They don't care about housing, especially outside of JP servers.

If they didn't care they wouldn't have given us more wards over and over. They do care... they just aren't easily persuaded that a chance could be beneficial since they often don't have a lot of time left to spend on things that might not seem important enough to risk missing the deadline.

So if people keep their idea short, make sure that it requires not too much effort and brings great improvement while supported by the current engine.. I'm sure they might do it eventually. Never lose hope since SE is a great company.
As a 9y player who's STILL waiting for some things to be fixed I know for a fact they have already fixed several since then.

But when people work slow and want to earn a lot... a company has to make sacrifices and has to find a middle path everyone is happy with.

[Midlithe]

I'm still of the opinion Island Sanctuary should be converted to Private Plots that allows you to build roughly the size of a LARGE plot.

Then... Prevent all the BOT and multiple FC farming model to continue (debated heavily here by those we multiple FC plots) before cutting over all existing Private wards to FC enabled purchase.

[Ravenblade1979]

I'm still of the opinion Island Sanctuary should be converted to Private Plots that allows you to build roughly the size of a LARGE plot.

Then... Prevent all the BOT and multiple FC farming model to continue (debated heavily here by those we multiple FC plots) before cutting over all existing Private wards to FC enabled purchase.

Or just instanced housing lol.

[LaylaTsarra]

H5. Limit accounts to 1 FC master 1 Personal per world; if you are in excess you got 45 days to find a master for any house you do not flag as "yours" - this largely depends on the aforementioned Workshop change above. Yes it means some folks are going to lose houses.

Things never change around here why I barely come here anymore. You do not change the rules and retroactively enforce them. That isn't going to happen so please give it a rest.

[Ravenblade1979]

5. Limit accounts to 1 FC master 1 Personal per world; if you are in excess you got 45 days to find a master for any house you do not flag as "yours" - this largely depends on the aforementioned Workshop change above. Yes it means some folks are going to lose houses.

So back in stormblood they grandfathered in people's extras then changed rules so it was only supposed to be one fc and one private per service account per world.

What happened was a half baked introduction leaving a large gaping loophole that seen alts able to take over fcs. So now you got 8 fc's per world and one private instead.

I also highly doubt they care enough to pull the trigger to reverse anything.

With all I seen in the game. We got more to worry about that they should be going after.

My original idea still stands tho

[Jojoya]

So back in stormblood they grandfathered in people's extras then changed rules so it was only supposed to be one fc and one private per service account per world.

What happened was a half baked introduction leaving a large gaping loophole that seen alts able to take over fcs. So now you got 8 fc's per world and one private instead.

I also highly doubt they care enough to pull the trigger to reverse anything.

With all I seen in the game. We got more to worry about that they should be going after.

My original idea still stands tho

Unfortunately, that gaping loophole stopped being a loophole when the rules were re-written for 5.1. The language allows for multiple FC houses per world per account now thanks to "purchase and maintain" being tied to the specific character that made the purchase and not to the account the character is on.

We need to stop targeting the multiple owners who are doing what SE allows and start targeting SE for not providing enough plots so that every player paying a monthly subscription is likewise able to obtain multiple houses if they desire. They created the system. It is up to them to address the flaws that exist in it.

[Ravenblade1979]

Unfortunately, that gaping loophole stopped being a loophole when the rules were re-written for 5.1. The language allows for multiple FC houses per world per account now thanks to "purchase and maintain" being tied to the specific character that made the purchase and not to the account the character is on.

We need to stop targeting the multiple owners who are doing what SE allows and start targeting SE for not providing enough plots so that every player paying a monthly subscription is likewise able to obtain multiple houses if they desire. They created the system. It is up to them to address the flaws that exist in it.

No, it's an actual loophole. It was never intended for people's alts to be able to own more fcs on a world that they already own a fc on.

Otherwise they wouldn't have imposed the 30 day thing they got now. They are quite aware of it. They just don't pull the trigger on making the 1% mad. Which is a shame really.

They also well aware we want a instanced system. They were quite aware we were hoping for it with island sanctuary cause a comment about it was made by them. They just gotta pull the trigger and make it happen. Otherwise actually enforce what was set in stoemblood.

Also I think what you mentioned was fact they grandfathered in people's extras back in stormblood which in itself was a dumb move but yeah. It's a straight up loophole and you shouldn't really be able to have 8 fcs per world lol

[Reinha]

No, it's an actual loophole. It was never intended for people's alts to be able to own more fcs on a world that they already own a fc on. Otherwise they wouldn't have imposed the 30 day thing they got now.

It was always intended. Fc leadership was able to be transferred even before fc houses existed and they made no changes to that when housing became a thing. Automatic fc leadership transfer has been in game since patch 2.2 and it has never had limitations based on people's alts. A player can literally end up with multiple fc houses by accident.

In the event a free company master does not log in for 35 days (Earth time), ownership will be automatically transferred to another free company member, based upon the following criteria:
1. Members who have logged in within the past seven days
2. Higher-ranked members preferred
3. Senior members preferred

It has never been against the rules to receive a second fc house for free through fc leadership transfer from another account. It was buying the houses that was previously restricted if you were already an owner. There has not been a patch in the history of this game where owning multiple fc houses was not allowed.

The 30 day restriction does not prevent any of this because it was not meant to. It was not implemented to stop people from becoming multiowners.