Major adjustment to housing

[Jojoya]

No, it's an actual loophole. It was never intended for people's alts to be able to own more fcs on a world that they already own a fc on.

Otherwise they wouldn't have imposed the 30 day thing they got now. They are quite aware of it. They just don't pull the trigger on making the 1% mad. Which is a shame really.

They also well aware we want a instanced system. They were quite aware we were hoping for it with island sanctuary cause a comment about it was made by them. They just gotta pull the trigger and make it happen. Otherwise actually enforce what was set in stoemblood.

Also I think what you mentioned was fact they grandfathered in people's extras back in stormblood which in itself was a dumb move but yeah. It's a straight up loophole and you shouldn't really be able to have 8 fcs per world lol

If it was not intended, the GMs would have the ability to address multiple-FC houses-on-a-single-world owners. They don't.

We want to think it's a loophole that is considered an exploit. Unfortunately it's not.

Again, the 30 day wait was one of the things they implemented to mess with RMT and not with multiple house owners. It is not an impediment to multiple house owners that are usually buying plots that other players and FCs are ignoring then entering the lottery to relocate to a better plot later. The multiple house owners have all the time in the world to buy more houses, they're not under any time constraints.

RMT is.

Would I like the current system to limit ownership to one FC house per world per account? Absolutely. I thought the rules would be clarified to show that with the 6.1 revamp. Turned out that SE is fine with the multiple FC house ownership because the new rules were expressed in language that allows it.

I am not going to harass players for doing what SE allows even if I think their actions are ethically wrong when other players are struggling to get a house on many worlds.

Instead, I'm going to focus on asking SE to change their flawed system. Preferably, they'd do it by coming up with a supply system that allows all players to own multiple houses of their choice if they want instead of having to compete for the limited number that are available.

[MAJRIS]

Instead, I'm going to focus on asking SE to change their flawed system. Preferably, they'd do it by coming up with a supply system that allows all players to own multiple houses of their choice if they want instead of having to compete for the limited number that are available.

but is SE/CBU willing or even capable of such thing? People that complain are people that still pay $ to play. All good, right?

[LianaThorne]

This is my thought tbh. They aren't going to change anything without having something in place to lock people into subs the way housing does. It's not logical for them to lose one of their main forms of income with the game just to supply people with multiple free houses.

[Jojoya]

but is SE/CBU willing or even capable of such thing? People that complain are people that still pay $ to play. All good, right?

Are they capable? Yes. Most of what is needed to create an outstanding system is already present in the game. I'd say the social lists are the exception, those need a ton of work and not just for the sake of housing.

Are they willing? So far it doesn't seem so. Yet that doesn't mean they won't reconsider at some point. The current system does not serve player base as it should.

This is my thought tbh. They aren't going to change anything without having something in place to lock people into subs the way housing does. It's not logical for them to lose one of their main forms of income with the game just to supply people with multiple free houses.

Did you know that auto-demolition is still suspended on the JP data centers? So much for locking players into their subscriptions.

Did you know that there is other content in the game to play?

Very few players are maintaining subscriptions solely because they want to keep a house they aren't using in a game they don't want to be playing most of the time. SE isn't going to see a massive drop in sub revenue if those players got smart, stopped subscribing and gave up their houses.

[SanadaX]

So we all know people constantly yell for more housing. This is nothing new and the devs keep dropping the ball. Started back in stormblood with the new rules but they allowed ppl to keep extra housing. Then as of late the alt loophole that they never closed. Just a bandaid put over.

I also know they want the community feel but I got a few suggestions.

1) actually move to instanced housing. Charge a few dollars more on ppls subs and people will gladly pay it for a guaranteed house. Now this would make those mad who won multiples and the buyers/sellers but who cares. You make so much more money off this and make thousands happy.

Now, if you did this, would need a cap of 200-250 visitors for venues.

Then I would suggest modifying the fc workshop so that you can build up your private and fc plots and house sizes utilizing builds to add to said plots but don't have the items insta finish the build. Give a timer so it looks like real building is going on.

I also realize this could result in account selling. You would need very strict rules in place to combat this.

2) ungrandfather peoples extras and get rid of people's extras they got via the alt loophole. Not to mention, take away housing from people on dynamis who just made an alt there for a house. You got xbox coming and they won't have a fair shot because ppl greedy over virtual property.

3) scrap the system altogether. You failed already with it. Allowed this shortage to continue. People won't stop asking and you either will be forced to do instanced, keep people whining or scrap it.

Ask yourself this. With 10 years left in the game. Do you want to do something to make the community actually happy with you in one aspect or do you want them to continually cry while the few charge absurd amounts for a fc house

I chuckled the entire time I read this. You want others to spend more money so that YOU have a guaranteed house.

SE doesn't care not to mention the way housing is now they have guaranteed subscriptions. Even if you aren't currently playing you will login otherwise you will lose what you so desperately tried to get.

Housing didn't need a lotto but the community asked for Y E A R S and now that they have it they still complain.

By ungrandfathering people that puts a lot of players at risk when they actually use their homes.

Feel free to try again in next weeks lotto though.

I'll be enjoying my personal home on Ward 5.. Love that grandfather lifestyle.

[Ravenblade1979]

I chuckled the entire time I read this. You want others to spend more money so that YOU have a guaranteed house.

SE doesn't care not to mention the way housing is now they have guaranteed subscriptions. Even if you aren't currently playing you will login otherwise you will lose what you so desperately tried to get.

Housing didn't need a lotto but the community asked for Y E A R S and now that they have it they still complain.

By ungrandfathering people that puts a lot of players at risk when they actually use their homes.

Feel free to try again in next weeks lotto though.

I'll be enjoying my personal home on Ward 5.. Love that grandfather lifestyle.

Apparently your knowledge of what they grandfathered in is abundantly low. Keep trying tho and to be fair. They wouldn't lose too many subscriptions with a instanced housing service. Just add the cost into the monthly sub.

So you still pay to have it..shocker isn't it.

[SanadaX]

Apparently your knowledge of what they grandfathered in is abundantly low. Keep trying tho and to be fair. They wouldn't lose too many subscriptions with a instanced housing service. Just add the cost into the monthly sub.

So you still pay to have it..shocker isn't it.

They would lose subscriptions when housing is easily accessible.

Let me break it down for you since you seem to have trouble processing.

Take the monthly sub. Add every housing district and ward. Now add in the servers and data centers.

Tell how much is that alone for people who want to keep their house?

Do you understand now?

Also people have been grandfather in since HW. They aren't going to screw over all those players who have been paying and playing for Y E A R S because people can't get lucky and win a house.

Sorry Tootz. Better luck next week.

[Divinemights]

They would lose subscriptions when housing is easily accessible.

Let me break it down for you since you seem to have trouble processing.

Sorry Tootz. Better luck next week.

Not everyone buying to your misconception
Players from this forum rising with torch and pitchforks threatening SE to place demolition timer system.
These topics are still on this forum if you spend time to search
Surrender to player demand and now SE are the villains trying to lock in subscriptions with housing?
Really?

[LuciferNacht]

Dear SE,

As you review these threads, please keep in mind that there is a vocal minority.

Feel free to continue to expand and improve housing but please remember that opinions like OP are fueled by self-interest and emotion and not the health and well-being of the game long term.

You do not "fix" FFXIV housing by punishing your long standing players that are playing 100% within the TOS.

Please find a solution that accommodates the masses while preserving what individuals have already worked for within the bounds of the rule as written TOS

[Ravenblade1979]

Dear SE,

As you review these threads, please keep in mind that there is a vocal minority.

Feel free to continue to expand and improve housing but please remember that opinions like OP are fueled by self-interest and emotion and not the health and well-being of the game long term.

You do not "fix" FFXIV housing by punishing your long standing players that are playing 100% within the TOS.

Please find a solution that accommodates the masses while preserving what individuals have already worked for within the bounds of the rule as written TOS

Actually, I speak for alot more then myself. Even a majority of those of us who been around since the start or like myself (9 years) would love to see this change.

Generally the people against it are the ones who hold multiple properties that sell them for absurd amounts (last look...fcs were ranging from 250mil for a small to 1.5bil for a large) or are merely holding onto them but not playing.

A real change in the system needs to be done and the ToS part made me laugh cause if the alt loophole was supposedly allowed, they wouldn't have made it so a new member has to be in the fc 30 days before they can take it over.

They know very well that people are gaining fcs well beyond what the rules since stormblood are imposing. Anything before...whatever. ppl got lucky they decided to grandfather those in.

Not sure why people got a problem with change bit I feel most of the ones against it I'm this topic are the same ones holding multiple and selling them off. In alot of ways I pity xbox players. They got no chance at housing.