Let's play a game: Save the Ancients!

[SannaR]

He's also the only one of the Ktisis trust NPCs that's always DPS, so basically by any definition, if he's the one LBing, things are very bad. You ever been the only DPS left standing on a near-wipe, desperately trying to get as much damage on the board as possible to outrace the inevitable? That's exactly the emotion that comes through in those lines.

But honestly I feel like Lunaxia doesn't understand their own argument, and just understands that they're in one. This is too far all over the place to make any sense, all I can really gather is that they seem to think that Hermes is some cackling supervillain that masterminded the heat death of the universe and then just... I dunno, made it look like an accident? I genuinely can't fathom how someone lands at the thought that Hermes didn't do what he did by well-meaning accident, and I really don't get how that's somehow supported by Hythlodaeus' perceived low self-esteem.

I have been that dps and most often I somehow end up being on bard or mch so that the only way to hope I survive is with second wind and a potion. Or that if the tank is still alive is able to throw me a shield that can heal me.

I feel they're trying hard to steer it towards the one that normally breaks out when talking about anything related to that subject. While also trying to argue many points that weren't all brought up by those she's arguing with. I still feel the only way to avoid the sundering and thus "save" the ancients is to prevent the releasing of the Metiea. Or at least having Hermes do one more correction of Meteion. Though that doesn't stop the world going to hell. As we know Midgardsormr was already on his way by the time we're visiting Elpis. Which means Omega is also on their way. We also know that if the Ominicrons had found a way to continue on their subjugation of the universe they would have made it to Etheirys at some point. We all know what they do when they start their attack. They target the various ecosystems of the planet and kill them off.

Even if the Onminicrons didn't come and they didn't go the way of the Nibirun then they'd end up like the EA in awaiting the heat death of the universe. If not something else coming along or the veneer peels off for one too many and the next Hermes or Athena ends up happening. Only for the counter point to be yeah well the sundered are just as capable. Where I don't think anyone is arguing against that. Just it only takes a single Ancient vs what normally is a group of sundered doing something that's able to cause world ending catastrophes.