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    It is a bit hard to follow the core points of the discussion, to be fair. Let me try to summarize.

    I think the main ongoing question was whether a society of hedonistic and whimsical godlings could be stably governed by a small circle of nepotistic oligarchs without everything rapidly going to pieces. The story handwaves this by saying that they were all of one peaceful (hive)mind until they weren't. When required to provide further detail in subsequent stories, such as the ones on Elpis, Amaurotine society in contrast turns out to be actually filled with charismatic individualists who routinely use their immense powers in accordance with their personal whims and beliefs. Naturally, when we get to be friends and know them better, it ends up being one self-inflicted world ending threat after another.

    Under such conditions, being eloquent and persuasive will only get you so far, and sometimes the application of force (physical or institutional) will be required. Convocation members were not necessarily selected on the basis of raw power, so it seems unlikely that they could maintain stable rule under such conditions indefinitely. (We already know for a fact that they were unable to, even with their current member group, and you can actually rest your case at that.)

    As an example, several people noted that the Convocation would struggle to pass their intimidation checks had they run with Hyth instead of Hades as the party face, as was originally planned. The tangential counterclaim made was that Hyth isn't less capable than Hades in raw magical power, he's just being modest. That strikes me as a bit of a stretch, but it seems to be a contentious point in here for whatever reason.

    A similar back and forth occurred around Hermes as well, although it's worth remembering that this is the same future Convocation member who we witnessed get outwitted by an amybystoma and stuck on a tree within minutes of being introduced. Not the high point of Convocation gravitas, to be sure.

    Either way, Amaurot was designed as a 'creation myth' to explain the backstory of the world setting. It isn't the primary setting itself. The starting premise in the writing that it was destroyed twelve thousand years ago. I could see a 'What if' scenario eventually being presented as part of an Ultimate fight (i.e. the Azem's plan route), but I wouldn't expect much more than that.
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    Last edited by Lyth; 03-07-2024 at 10:42 PM.