JP Players healer feedback is...

[Solakor]

So basically they have a really boring ideal of how they want roles to be and anything outside of the pure standard is met with extreme disagreement.

Not gonna lie, I thought World of Warcraft had terrible reasons to neuter jobs over time, but if ffxiv JP is the primary audience the devs base their changes and decisions on then I am genuinely afraid for the future of job design.

It really does not help that the idea of keeping up a social standard and status quo is such a deeprooted thing in their culture - the fact this extends to their wishes and desire for game additions and changes is appalling.

The question isn't if they will remove something but what. They have been doing this 3 expacs in a row. SB was the middle ground where we still had skill expression but it wasn't as punishing and everything after has just been making it worse and worse.
The new SMN shouldn't exist in the game period because it's not a caster and it's completely different job to what it was before.
DT will not make it better but propably worse. The question is how much.

[Absurdity]

The question isn't if they will remove something but what. They have been doing this 3 expacs in a row. SB was the middle ground where we still had skill expression but it wasn't as punishing and everything after has just been making it worse and worse.
The new SMN shouldn't exist in the game period because it's not a caster and it's completely different job to what it was before.
DT will not make it better but propably worse. The question is how much.

I mean if their end goal is to basically make the gameplay Everquest but without any of the interesting class mechanics then it's still going to get quite a lot worse. It's just a question of how long that process is going to take.

[SieyaM]

I mean if their end goal is to basically make the gameplay Everquest but without any of the interesting class mechanics then it's still going to get quite a lot worse. It's just a question of how long that process is going to take.

The kind of tools and skills that classes have in Everquest are way more comprehensive than anything XIV has ever had.

[Absurdity]

The kind of tools and skills that classes have in Everquest are way more comprehensive than anything XIV has ever had.

That's why I specifically said "without any of the interesting class mechanics", because if you strip those away you end up with the most barebones gameplay imaginable.

[Flay_wind]

I mean if their end goal is to basically make the gameplay Everquest but without any of the interesting class mechanics then it's still going to get quite a lot worse. It's just a question of how long that process is going to take.

Look, i'd kill to have a Warden from EQ2. It had so much busted crap.
What do you mean infinite MP?
Tank gets regen proc on simply being hit.
Basically a dance partner.
Group immunity to bind effects just by being in the party.
Immunity to aoe for 30 seconds, save for the MT.
Death prevention (when targets takes lethal damage, hp can't be recuded below 1 and target gets a regen).
Group wide death prevention, yes, you read that right.
Targeted Hallowed Ground on a 5 min recast, why the fuck not. =)