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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    Most likely due to it being a trope in many a Sci fi or military fiction where the person who is in need of a verbal dressing down gets either A no dressing down and a steamy or aggressive smexy times. Or B the roll in the hay still happens with the dressing down happening before, during or after said intimacy happens. It happens so often that people tend to see it/read it as short hand as fraternization is going to happen. Why so many have had been grossed out by that scene. Due to the age difference and the obvious power imbalance. Why when Werlyt came out and they put in the whole there wasn't anything in between them many had a "Oh thank goodness." moment. Though it doesn't change how Livia talks about Gaius as even if you don't read her whole "You're keeping me away from my Gaius and only I can be at his side." crap as not romantic it is still kinda creepy for a person whose ment to be in a father daughter relationship.
    Thanks for pointing out what I generally suspected might've been going on. Yeah, Livia's absolutely and very clearly not okay, but the only indication of there being a sex thing going on comes from people projecting nonexistent subtext from other media onto it.

    We know what FFXIV writing inappropriate sexual situations is like. We especially know what that was like during ARR, and it wasn't wink-wink 'you know what this means' subtext about a very specific trope. If they wanted that to be part of the text around Gaius it would've been written in twelve-foot tall neon text on the wall of the Praetorium. You wouldn't have to dig for that treasure chest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post

    We know what FFXIV writing inappropriate sexual situations is like. We especially know what that was like during ARR, and it wasn't wink-wink 'you know what this means' subtext about a very specific trope. If they wanted that to be part of the text around Gaius it would've been written in twelve-foot tall neon text on the wall of the Praetorium. You wouldn't have to dig for that treasure chest.
    What example are in ARR with that context?
    I know/remember only 1 scene. And that is after a fate at the sun beach, where you has to protect a dancer, who was going to the east part of the Coast. And where a male npc say, that both could wait inside a building, until its time for her job. And both walken very fast to that building. Where it looks heavy cleary, what both would probably do there.
    The only other moment, where a slightly hint of that exist, would be the elezen, near Ishgard, who is helping us later.
    That he says at last in some languanges things, as if he is interessted in us and want us to be in his sleeping room later (what is interrupted by Alphy, who missunderstand that). At last, how i remember the scene (i need to replay that part, and it is at last my head canon, that there was happening something, if your WoL is female, the same with Zenos interesst in you, if you are female -in addition of his lust of hunting and fighting-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keichi View Post
    What example are in ARR with that context?
    I know/remember only 1 scene. And that is after a fate at the sun beach, where you has to protect a dancer, who was going to the east part of the Coast. And where a male npc say, that both could wait inside a building, until its time for her job. And both walken very fast to that building. Where it looks heavy cleary, what both would probably do there.
    The only other moment, where a slightly hint of that exist, would be the elezen, near Ishgard, who is helping us later.
    That he says at last in some languanges things, as if he is interessted in us and want us to be in his sleeping room later (what is interrupted by Alphy, who missunderstand that). At last, how i remember the scene (i need to replay that part, and it is at last my head canon, that there was happening something, if your WoL is female, the same with Zenos interesst in you, if you are female -in addition of his lust of hunting and fighting-)
    The women we see in Sastasha, the post moogle quest of stroking the haft, many female npc speech bubbles in Limsa hint to said activities. The Ninja quest Ninja Bathin'.. The mamool Ja that you beat up in the fate Peeping Ja. His "dance" is implied to be more about what he wants to do with some of the female Miqo'te bathers. Also Haurchefant, Aymeric, Zenos and any other npc that can be seen as flirting with the WoL don't care about their gender. Magnai and Daidukul being rare exceptions. As Magnai only wants to flirt with you if you're female and well all Buduga only want to interact with other men.
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