These Relics Aren't Relicing

[Heroman3003]

Relics were originally supposed to be cool weapon that progresses with you as you progress through the .X patches. That's what they were supposed to be, and ever since the raider hardcore nutjobs whined so much that SE changed the relics into lagging behind at least a full patch in ilvl, they became nothing more than another glamour weapon and that's what they were since. Grind is irrelevant, lore is irrelevant, it's core appeal was initially that it was a weapon that you take with yourself throughout whole expansion, but now you always have better options unless you're at .55 at which point you've already done everything that may need a weapon anyway. And if it's just a glamour weapon, I honestly don't think grind levels matter either way. The only gear that matters of any given ilvl is whatever was released first, everything coming after is just glamour and catch up.

[Immut]

Yep. This was the worst relic by far. The end stage is obviously designed to be a glamour weapon for cyberpunk city. But the problem is nobody is going to be stupid enough to grind 6k tomes per job to collect a second or third one, when it's going to be a straight poetry dump when 7.0 hits. So it's dead content on release. And the trial not only has no EX version, it only needs to be done once for the story. So you'll need to PF it in another month or so when DF queues die.

SE has consistently shown that they no longer understand the simple concept of making content repeatable and have never understood the concept of making it infinitely repeatable. At the bare minimum you should have needed to do the fight for EACH relic.

[RitsukoSonoda]

Yep. This was the worst relic by far. The end stage is obviously designed to be a glamour weapon for cyberpunk city. But the problem is nobody is going to be stupid enough to grind 6k tomes per job to collect a second or third one, when it's going to be a straight poetry dump when 7.0 hits. We need shit that ISN'T just relics to dump poetry into. Desynthing tomestone weapons for airship/submarine mats is still the best use of poetry which is actually very stupid.

Doesn't feel cyberpunk to me. IMO it and the Solution 9 area they teased feels like an attempt of giving us a PSO2 collab after PSO2 got an FFXIV collab back in either ARR or Pre ARR. (so long ago I forget exactly when it happened.)

[Miguel85NYC]

EndWalker was by far the worst expansion

[Rxvenluvsducks]

EndWalker was by far the worst expansion

Period. No comment. This is just straight up facts. The end of the story was bad, the post ew content + story (except for the first patch I guess) was bad and the relic is just not helping.

[SieyaM]

EndWalker was by far the worst expansion

It was for me, but not sure I would rank it so far below the others. Some of my dissatisfaction is probably just from having played for so long, of course nothing feels new or as exciting when you've been playing the game for 10 or so years.

[Metalface_Villain]

i'd honestly prefer slightly juiced up version of the previous form, heck even an option to choose the effect color would be better than 99% of the new forms imo. the grind for this, doing rolos, was even worse than the arr relics, i personally enjoyed stuff like eureka way more, a whole new zone, with its own gameplay and a relic armor on top that was goated

[Metalface_Villain]

I hard-disagree though.

I prefer this method of obtaining relics (which is actually the same as every other iteration, it just lets you choose what thing you're going to grind). And I like the look and effect on the final stage weapons.

let's you choose which rolo you gonna queue for LMAO

[ty_taurus]

No one has yet to actually give me a good answer to my question.

We already have a tomestone weapon that one can obtain by grinding whatever content they want. "I prefer that I could grind whatever I wanted for EW" okay, awesome. That's exactly what the tomestone weapon was for. Meanwhile players who wanted more intricate steps with branching, yet specific resources to obtain had Relic weapons. What purpose was there to giving both weapons the same path to obtain them? Why wasn't the tomestone weapon good enough? Why do you need both? And what is left for the players who clearly don't like the tomestone grind path and preferred the relic grind path? If you would rather relics stay a simple tomestone grind every step, then what is it those of us who want the old relic grind experience get to have instead? What do you suggest we get?

[Boblawblah]

No one has yet to actually give me a good answer to my question.

We already have a tomestone weapon that one can obtain by grinding whatever content they want. "I prefer that I could grind whatever I wanted for EW" okay, awesome. That's exactly what the tomestone weapon was for. Meanwhile players who wanted more intricate steps with branching, yet specific resources to obtain had Relic weapons. What purpose was there to giving both weapons the same path to obtain them? Why wasn't the tomestone weapon good enough? Why do you need both? And what is left for the players who clearly don't like the tomestone grind path and preferred the relic grind path? If you would rather relics stay a simple tomestone grind every step, then what is it those of us who want the old relic grind experience get to have instead? What do you suggest we get?

You answered your own question, you just won't accept the answer.