PVP in this game isnt fun

[DeathNoodles]

PVP nowadays is leagues better than it used to be. I think they're acknowledging there is a big pvp community and are now making efforts to change things.

[Apeman]

PVP nowadays is leagues better than it used to be. I think they're acknowledging there is a big pvp community and are now making efforts to change things.

As long as you exclude Frontlines then maybe? Frontlines is absolute garbage at the moment.

[JokoCGN]

PVP nowadays is leagues better than it used to be. I think they're acknowledging there is a big pvp community and are now making efforts to change things.

Based on the "big PvP community's" quality there isn't such a thing lol. They queueing for tomes and exp.

[Spiffer]

FL and CC are fastest que pops in game. should tell you pvp community is getting bigger. its not 90% exper and tome grinders thats badfaith my whole FC dosnt even do any pvp sept me and all they do is tome grind for relics. and many many many ppl who exp/farm for tomes do it elsewhere since pvp they have to idk fight sometimes. theres at least 3 communitys of dedicated pvpers on EU(its about 250ppl) many more on NA and JP. and thats just me. im sure there are plenty of other communitys/solo que pvpers and small groups of friends.

[Wilford111]

As long as you exclude Frontlines then maybe? Frontlines is absolute garbage at the moment.

As long as you keep in mind that you aren't going to win most of the time, Frontline can be a fulfilling experience.
It's all about your mindset going in. I once heard someone describe Frontline as a party game, where nothing really matters, and I've found that I'm less frustrated at losing if I think of it like that.

[Teno]

As long as you exclude Frontlines then maybe? Frontlines is absolute garbage at the moment.

It's actually fine. What do you struggle with in frontlines ?

[Degunuts]

"Remove a gamemode because I dont like it" huge

Also if you want communication, make calls. Its a team game. Be a team leader.

[Eastwall]

As long as you keep in mind that you aren't going to win most of the time, Frontline can be a fulfilling experience.
It's all about your mindset going in. I once heard someone describe Frontline as a party game, where nothing really matters, and I've found that I'm less frustrated at losing if I think of it like that.

I don't because l don't need to win to get roulette bonus. I don't mind if a premade crushes the lobby. That just means l get my roulette reward faster.

[Themarvin]

It's bullshit riddled with crowd control, 0 communication, can't play with friends, your progress is tied to the randomness of the idiots you match with, the latency is horrible, the balancing is fucked.

Just delete this and give us collectors a favour so we can skip this shit.

Well if you want to complete everything, then everything may not be to your liking, for CC/Feast it is what it is, you can have premade or group wiht someone in Rival Wings and Frontline.

Please respect it as it is, what you dislike, others may like, also I believe there is some kind of option to make teams for PvP, but you may run into some rather pro players often, if going for it and you would need a team for it.

[Colt47]

The main problem with PvP in tab target is that you're fighting the control system of the game to get it to do what you want. Everything requires time an patience of input so reflexive actions that are "natural" aren't possible. It's a thinking mans game with a tight timer strapped to it.

And since they balanced this around team play and the communication system they got is somewhat... garbage... along with the randomizing of the teams people can't organize. It's basically personal skill with PF bullshit attached. Also, this facet of PvP hits people who are not particularly good at PvP the most, because it is kind of hard to improve your skills at PvP if one match you are getting carried by people who were part of a platinum league and the next you're in a group with zero communication and everyone is just running around like clueless apes.

Edit: Unless someone is in an organized zerg for Frontlines, or are able to decipher whatever magic someone needs to consistently win CC matches, they are probably just grimacing as they suffer through the point earning system. I know that is harsh but pvp depends a lot on the quality of the people who are involved in it. Tearing apart people who are organized for the sake of the mob was an awful idea that SE implemented and now we got a useless mode that they have to bait with carrots to get people involved.