PVP in this game isnt fun

[Oni_Akuma]

Imagine getting farmed 9 times by rouletters without their buttons bound in the braindead AoE spam game mode (from 2 months ago btw).

You know I actually can't recall that tbh. I did resubscribe 2 months ago but have 0 recollection of playing frontlines. I don't even tome farm.

I aim for fat juicy RoEs when heading into a pile of people. There is no reason for me to actually frontlines serious except killing and aiming for Fat RoEs.

ShB: Back when backline Dragoons were thought to broken in Frontlines



All time CC highest RoE heal:70k Heal




I only aim to fight everyone and test my length of survival. I am dueling everyone to the death. Know the difference. When you reach the peak you don't care on trivial matters. Everything becomes a new testing ground after that.

[Kathleen_]

Alright I take everything back farming aggro to drop fat RoEs is kneel worthy.

[Oni_Akuma]

Alright I take everything back farming aggro to drop fat RoEs is kneel worthy.

I take back what I said earlier too. We can start over again on block one again. Hi I am Oni. Many on the pvp discord community know me. I used to travel all of NA dcs challenging the best pvprs out there. From Rank 1 of data centers to CCRC players dueling them to the death to test their might.

[Nikoto]

I admire you for keep record of all the stuff from the past.

This is where we need to Return to

All you other weaklings should just learn to play an MMORPG better. MMORPGS have been out for 20+ years. There should be little complaints for new comers and just GIT GUD. Literally my 20 years experience (6 years WoW, 8 years FFXIV, and about 5-10 others in between) or about 20 years all down the drain because how noob oriented FF14 has became due to massive public. PVP was better when the community was toxic. There was always someone trying to outclass the other for supremacy. :P

I know cause I battle for supremacy everywhere I play or if I read the tool tips and since my in-depth knowledge of the game like it's the back of my hand, I know how most things will turn out. This current PVP. The Peak has already been achieved around season 1 or 2 with little to no room for advancement. Square Enix literally just slapped a few ingredients and called it a cake.

This is the funniest troll post I've ever read.

[Oni_Akuma]

This is the funniest troll post I've ever read.

Being dead ass. As funny or troll as it looks. I speak the truth of the low skill level of the vast majority. Who can't even figure out their own burst rotation.

[Cynric]

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Yeah ,I agree with most of what you’ve said here . PvP skills and jobs were more fun when we had like 30 skills which were the same as pve , rotations, defensives, and we could trait our pvp skills. It felt like there was an actual difference between two players on the same job. Whereas now it doesn’t really and hasn’t for a long time.

Over the years they just kept simplifying things to where we are now. When all they really needed to do was improve the rules of the game modes.

Instead they just kept nuking jobs over and over. I think the best thing we got from the current system was the unique limit breaks. Though I also have feelings about how all of those are in comparison to each other.

I don’t think crystal conflict itself is bad. But I’m really bored of the job kits. There’s just not enough depth for me. The best I can say about them is that they’re unique from each other. Though I personally will always prefer an arena type game myself.

I wouldn’t mind seeing traits return (as you say not that version where we had an illusion of choice) and having a separate set of traits for frontline and arena.

It’s actually kind of sad. We have more players than we ever had back then playing pvp now, but I just don’t really find it that fun.

[LilFlowers]

Being dead ass. As funny or troll as it looks. I speak the truth of the low skill level of the vast majority. Who can't even figure out their own burst rotation.

You make valid points but it makes you look like a clown talking smack about people with friends, queueing up for the game mode that allows them to join up with their friends. Like we all wanna play CC because PVP is clearly balanced with it in mind this expansion, but cannot queue together.

[AriannaStormwake]

premades against pugs in the shatter map is not very fun either
so do people who are all over the map and easy lowscore lose
same people who avoid pvp in shatter and hit little ices big sadge

[ConantSivrha]

PVP in this game is a garbage fire, but the only thing worse than the gameplay is the childish behavior that losing---or just anticipating a loss---brings out in the players. Even without chat, people can and will find a way to make their petulant baby rage known to all present. It's not a real Crystalline Conflict match unless 1-3 people on your team are spamming "Good match!" every time the enemy team gains some kind of advantage. Frontlines chat is usually better, but just today my alliance had someone who was salty that we didn't win and was trying to assign blame.

Maybe PVP players would hold on to their sanity a little longer if the gameplay was halfway decent, and abilities worked when you pressed the button instead of 3 seconds later (or not at all), but I have my doubts.

Just don't play the mode you don't like.

"Don't point out the problems, just stop playing" isn't a solution when we're talking about the only permanent content in the game that's constantly cycling through limited time rewards---mounts, glamours, emotes, etc---that will never come back, not even in the cash shop. Why were emotes for common cutscene animations like /linkpearl and /determined made into limited time PVP rewards, instead of being made permanently obtainable in any other part of the game? Because people who didn't like the mode weren't playing the mode they didn't like, and SE didn't like that.

[Astralrisk]

"Don't point out the problems, just stop playing" isn't a solution when we're talking about the only permanent content in the game that's constantly cycling through limited time rewards---mounts, glamours, emotes, etc---that will never come back, not even in the cash shop. Why were emotes for common cutscene animations like /linkpearl and /determined made into limited time PVP rewards, instead of being made permanently obtainable in any other part of the game? Because people who didn't like the mode weren't playing the mode they didn't like, and SE didn't like that.

The comment was intended for people saying they don't like to PvP and only do so because they are forced to because of rewards. Even with how fast it takes to level the pass and the large amount of time you have to actually get all the battle pass rewards (especially in current patch since its going to be around for over half a year) I still agree with you that having limited time rewards is cringe, especially with no dev comments on them returning in the future. I don't know if SE intended for the series pass was intended to force players into playing PvP, but no one should force themselves to actively grind out the pass if they don't genuinely like PvP. Just get your daily FL roulette in for a couple of weeks and you'll get the rank 25 rewards easily without having to push yourself to the point of going onto the forums and make a post like the OPs saying the most surface level complaints with no actual commentary. I didn't intend for my comment to come off like the "just go play another game" take, but in the context of this thread I just said that because people do genuinely not like PvP in the game but still push themselves incredibly hard to playing it and it causes them to just hate the game.