What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[MagiusNecros]

IX's my second favourite of the main titles, with my overall favourite being XII. Though I've seen enough over the years from this game to realise that many of the references are unfortunately very surface level or never quite manage to capture the original charm of whatever is being referenced in the first place.

As an aside, I think it's very telling that the entirety of the universe outside of Etheirys was basically nuked by Meteion and largely due to Venat's refusal to tell her people of the true cause behind the Final Days so they could potentially look into a solution that would save not only Etheirys but worlds beyond it...and now the game's protagonists are set to explore the broken remnants of dead worlds so they can build settlements of their own and reap the benefits in the process.

Can you imagine:

Endwalker: All planets are dead except Etheirys

Dawntrail: We've discovered planets filled with life in Cosmic Exploration!!

Would make that whole story arc in EW completely pointless.

[Vyrerus]

Can you imagine:

Endwalker: All planets are dead except Etheirys

Dawntrail: We've discovered planets filled with life in Cosmic Exploration!!

Would make that whole story arc in EW completely pointless.

inB4 we find a buncha cutesie races that lived somehow in uber bleak conditions, but now that we've found them they can get back to living good lives instead of subsisting off subterranean fungus and cannibalizing the dead.

And they'll be like, "Oh, but the suffering was worthwhile because we're still alive!"

Nah who am I kidding? They're not gonna make new assets. We're gonna run into empty places where everything that grows is fantastical whimsical colors.

[MagiusNecros]

inB4 we find a buncha cutesie races that lived somehow in uber bleak conditions, but now that we've found them they can get back to living good lives instead of subsisting off subterranean fungus and cannibalizing the dead.

And they'll be like, "Oh, but the suffering was worthwhile because we're still alive!"

Nah who am I kidding? They're not gonna make new assets. We're gonna run into empty places where everything that grows is fantastical whimsical colors.

They will pull the "Breathe life into dead planets with Dynamis" card.

I don't think these people play their own game sometimes.

[Lady_Silvermoon]

IX's my second favourite of the main titles, with my overall favourite being XII. Though I've seen enough over the years from this game to realise that many of the references are unfortunately very surface level or never quite manage to capture the original charm of whatever is being referenced in the first place.

As an aside, I think it's very telling that the entirety of the universe outside of Etheirys was basically nuked by Meteion and largely due to Venat's refusal to tell her people of the true cause behind the Final Days so they could potentially look into a solution that would save not only Etheirys but worlds beyond it...and now the game's protagonists are set to explore the broken remnants of dead worlds so they can build settlements of their own and reap the benefits in the process.

So I was right! We are gonna do a colonialism after all! I would just like to say, "I called it."

Prolly just me, but I find it slightly funny how debby downer this guy is with his analysis.

I actually take comfort in someone else seeing how messed up they made the universe based on their writing choices. I feel like everyone else is just assuring me that turd in my mouth is really chocolate because they intended it to be chocolate when they took a squat. And I spend my days trying to explain intent and execution are not the same thing.

[Dorito_Burrito]

I wasn't aware this game was really called "The Ancients Featuring Final Fantasy XIV", because holy crap I hope they close the book on the Ancients and they become a distant memory by the time Dawntrail begins.

[Eisi]

The best thing they can do with Cosmic Exploration is not to have sentient alien races at all in my opinion.

Although they will probably have the universe be more populated and flourishing than ever before because of Meteion's Song of Hope that instantly regenerated all the dead stars and resurrected every race except better.

[Boblawblah]

I for one look forward to colonizing the New World and bringing Venat's light to new people.

[Theodric]

They will pull the "Breathe life into dead planets with Dynamis" card.

I don't think these people play their own game sometimes.

Dynamis in general always rubbed me the wrong way since it was never anything more than a convenient plot device pulled out of nowhere to try and justify the eradication of the Ancients. It didn't even end up being a necessity in the end in a lot of elements in the finale came down to Aether rather than Dynamis and even Hythlodaeus and Emet-Selch managed to make use of Dynamis in the final hour despite the game gaslighting about how the Ancients couldn't possibly make use of it...when in reality, the only reason they weren't studying it actively was due to Venat withholding knowledge of how integral it would supposedly be towards combating the Final Days. In itself an apocalypse she deliberately allowed to happen as a 'test'.

It's all utterly insane logic that doesn't hold up under even the slightest bit of scrutiny since the protagonists of the game would never accept such terms being applied to their own loved ones, nor is anyone else under any real obligation to just bend over and perish on command for the convenience of self proclaimed 'heroes'. It's why Shadowbringers worked so well - it pushed the idea that neither the Sundered or the Ancients deserved or needed to be wiped out and simply continuing to commit to that would have made Endwalker far less of a controversy.

So I was right! We are gonna do a colonialism after all! I would just like to say, "I called it."

I'm sure certain posters on the lore forum will frame it as anything but that despite spending anywhere from a few years to a decade complaining about Garlemald, Ul'dah and Limsa Lominsa's land grabs.

The best thing they can do with Cosmic Exploration is not to have sentient alien races at all in my opinion.

Although they will probably have the universe be more populated and flourishing than ever before because of Meteion's Song of Hope that instantly regenerated all the dead stars and resurrected every race except better.

Yeah, pretty much. I'm expecting the latter since it'll conveniently follow up on the Ultima Thule stuff where if you wish hard enough you can just poof new life into existence and restore even a decaying husk of land in the far reaches of space into a thriving locale.

Essentially exactly the same thing that Creation Magic accomplished. Though that was a power innate to the Ancients and now it's just given to the Sundered but framed differently.

[Lady_Silvermoon]

I wasn't aware this game was really called "The Ancients Featuring Final Fantasy XIV", because holy crap I hope they close the book on the Ancients and they become a distant memory by the time Dawntrail begins.

Given the signs written in Solution 9 seem to be in their language, looks like the answer to every question will still be, "Ancients did it."

The best thing they can do with Cosmic Exploration is not to have sentient alien races at all in my opinion.

Although they will probably have the universe be more populated and flourishing than ever before because of Meteion's Song of Hope that instantly regenerated all the dead stars and resurrected every race except better.

Well, we did go from cavemen to launching moon prisons into space in like 6000 years, so yeah, probably.(That just made me realize I have to explain which moon prison I mean, I was referring to Dalamud.)

[BRVV]

I for one look forward to colonizing the New World and bringing Venat's light to new people.

Look at me. You don't worship a primal anymore. You now give your life to crystal mommy.