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  1. #11
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    Tsumdere's Avatar
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    Fia Mortivault
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    The issue isn't quantity, it's quality. It's very apparent that the Mogststion items (outside of the NPC cosplays because one item problems) are more interesting and of a higher quality compared to in game items we can get. Some are also questionable as to why they weren't just rewards for new content (Shadow Wolf, Cruise Chaser, the upcoming Lopporitt moon mount). I don't really care either way that there's a cash shop but we should be receiving the same quality of items in game as we get on the Mogstation. It's depressing that I get more excited for Mogststation items than I do in game item releases when it should be the reverse.
    I'm not particularly bothered by cash shops, but I dislike the frequency we're getting things put in there. I think the Shadowkeeper and fantasy sets not being put in the game is a travesty.

    But Mogstation outfits better? Gurl. Majority of them are cheap looking K-MMO modern glams which not only generic, but pale in comparison to more detailed and varied sets in game like Asphodelos or Hypostatic. Some of them are so uninspired they have very close equivalents that can be found in game. This one is Rinascita aiming but for every job. The Magitek set is just the new PvP set but worse because it has less options.

    Dumb looking street fashion could be gotten at Blunderville, and those ones have sparkles too!
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    Last edited by Tsumdere; 01-06-2024 at 12:50 AM.

  2. #12
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    Verso Memoria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    Have to be honest here. If you need rewards to even do the content. Then it's not for you. Criterion is supposed to be harder content for people who want a challenge.

    I mean, next ppl gonna whine that ultimates only give a weapon and nothing else
    That's the purpose of the challenge is it not? You complete the hard content; you get title and super unique weapon for completing said content. In exchange, you have to prog the fight for substantial amount of time. It requires work, but there is a reward.

    If Criterions are supposed to be the middle ground between Extremes and Savage raids, which both give rewards and require work, why should Criterion not when it also requires work?
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  3. #13
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    T shirt and jeans number 27 ingame but put fantasy stuff in the store.

    Cool cool.
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  4. #14
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    Tsumdere's Avatar
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    Fia Mortivault
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    Have to be honest here. If you need rewards to even do the content. Then it's not for you. Criterion is supposed to be harder content for people who want a challenge.

    I mean, next ppl gonna whine that ultimates only give a weapon and nothing else
    Variant is supposed to be casual content for people who want to relax, so there should be no rewards in there. Same with Ishgard Restoration and Island Sanctuary. I think hanging out with friends and taking a break from IRL is reward enough.
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  5. #15
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Looks like a dungeon set so I'm not buying it. Which kind of speaks for the quality of dungeon sets in game, they are as good as store items.
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  6. #16
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    Padudu Moro
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    Pretty sure the events of 2023 (including Blunderville and the 10th Anniversary Moogle Treasure Trove) and the Island Sanctuary rewards were quite a bit when it comes to quality items you can obtain in game.
    You mean the casual vacation outfits lol, while the high fantasy clothes in a FINAL FANTASY game remains paywalled, ok.

    Not to mention some of it is just bare minimum anyway. Like the island tanga.. another set of panties. Yay.

    The EW raids/dungeon gear for healers/casters. Robe, robe, robe, dress, robe, robe. Some of them undyable too. So much variety!

    Or how about how the raiding/dungeon gear for ranged pretty much is just machinist gear.

    In an expansion that is bone dry in terms of content of course y'all would defend this shit lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    Have to be honest here. If you need rewards to even do the content. Then it's not for you. Criterion is supposed to be harder content for people who want a challenge.

    I mean, next ppl gonna whine that ultimates only give a weapon and nothing else
    God forbid we as the players paying a subscription have INCENTIVES to do content.
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  7. #17
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    This game has an absolutely ridiculous amount of outfits you can acquire in game. Complaining because the company puts some on the store for profit is absurd. The company exists to make money.
    You make it sound like this isn't a subscription based mmo.

    I havent been terribly thrilled with the quality of content in Endwalker so I don't want to give them extra money.
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  8. #18
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    How to tell players haven't messed with glam in game for 500 Alex.
    I'd be happy to give you a tour of my glamour plates whenever you'd like. c: You can even copy some if you like any, I get a crazy amount of compliments on my ranged glam in particular.
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  9. #19
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    Have to be honest here. If you need rewards to even do the content. Then it's not for you. Criterion is supposed to be harder content for people who want a challenge.
    Damn do I have to return my Epic Hero title? I cant believe the content I've run more than anyone else I've met in the game isn't for me.

    All the gil I've farmed from it due to how hilariously unpopular it is....
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  10. #20
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    Have to be honest here. If you need rewards to even do the content. Then it's not for you.
    Remove every reward from the game.

    Would you still play the game?

    Are there other games you play where you don't get any rewards?

    If we're being honest, it's the rewards that draw most players into content these days. They're used to being rewarded for doing things (and that extends likely back to before they were even playing online games). People want to feel like they're getting something for their time and effort.

    It's partially the fault of the online gaming industry for latching onto Skinner box techniques but it's also a reflection of how first world society as a whole has gradually changed over the last 80 years. Once upon a time, we made up our own games and didn't seek any rewards for playing them other than having fun with our friends. Now if we don't like the rewards we don't want to do it even with our friends.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    I havent been terribly thrilled with the quality of content in Endwalker so I don't want to give them extra money.
    Good thing you don't have to. There are plenty of great glamour options available through game play.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 01-06-2024 at 01:58 AM.

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