Thoughts on the Yoshi P AMA?

[Iscah]

That would depend if you consider an experienced, competent healer main that understands the game's systems to a decent level an 'average player'. Sadly the role is so shallow at this point that I suspect the 'average player' doesn't go down the rabbit hole far enough to realise just how bad a state it's in right now.

And yes, I imagine it's low down on your list because you've not gotten to the point of realising it's an issue yet (Even though you have experienced it).

That's my point. The number of people who care is a minority, and therefore the chances of one being present (and choosing to ask the question) is low.

People simply do not collectively care about it as much as you think they should.

And no, I have not "not gotten to the point of realising it's an issue". It is simply not an issue for me, and may or may not ever become one. It is only an issue to people who take issue with it.

[Reap00]

It's sadly just not the changes we actually need. Like shortening the patch cycle, fixing savage loot unlock, increasing the longevity of content and improving the combat system. Its not what we really need for DT honestly and I can't see this game lasting more than 5 years if nothing is done

I guarantee you are wrong. This game will last more than 5 years if the devs continue with the current content cycle and do not divert from it at all.

[Atelier-Bagur]

It's sadly just not the changes we actually need. Like shortening the patch cycle, fixing savage loot unlock, increasing the longevity of content and improving the combat system. Its not what we really need for DT honestly and I can't see this game lasting more than 5 years if nothing is done

Dude just bail here right now. This is your chance. How much more copium do you need?

[Sebazy]

People simply do not collectively care about it as much as you think they should.

And no, I have not "not gotten to the point of realising it's an issue". It is simply not an issue for me, and may or may not ever become one. It is only an issue to people who take issue with it.

My suspicion is that when they get to the point where they realise that the role is a burning dumpster and simply walk or switch role. Those that stick around and persevere are a pretty wild minority at this point IMO, I'm not going to deny that.

IMO it's a question that's progressively going to get more and more important as the steady influx of new players starts to dry up. Seemingly that's not an issue just yet, but that point comes for every MMO eventually and as it stands I don't think Yoshida will have an answer.

[RaideDuku]

It's sadly just not the changes we actually need. Like shortening the patch cycle, fixing savage loot unlock, increasing the longevity of content and improving the combat system. Its not what we really need for DT honestly and I can't see this game lasting more than 5 years if nothing is done

Damn man. That sucks. Guess you should quit. No sense in playing and paying for a dying game. Me? Oh, I'm a walking physical manifestation of poor life choices. I'm good.

[Caro178]

My suspicion is that when they get to the point where they realise that the role is a burning dumpster and simply walk or switch role. Those that stick around and persevere are a pretty wild minority at this point IMO, I'm not going to deny that.

IMO it's a question that's progressively going to get more and more important as the steady influx of new players starts to dry up. Seemingly that's not an issue just yet, but that point comes for every MMO eventually and as it stands I don't think Yoshida will have an answer.

Your average person who rolled dps or tank as their first job tends to be more of the persuasion that healers are intimidating due to potential wipe causing factors and increased visibility of mistakes. I've had that exact conversation with sprouts and even players at endgame who refuse to touch healers because they believe due to either word of mouth or past experiences that it's an intimidating role where your mistakes can lead to your party failing to clear a boss and having to restart which to them is a mortifying possibility. Statistically healer has also been the least played role at endgame from the beginning before and after the supposed guttings. That has never not been the case so your theory that people quit healer due to simplification doesn't hold much weight. The role is no less popular now than it was in the past - the stats are about the same as ever.

TLDR it's true that your average player doesn't care as much as you might think because they believe healer jobs are intimidating anyway. Overall it does not surprise me to see this entirely ignored when they could ask about Viera/Hrothgar headgear or glamour plates.

[Khryseis_Astra]

No new glam plates for awhile then, which is kind of disappointing with 2 new classes being added… but more character creation options sounds good! Although I wonder what specifically they have in mind… hoping it’s actually more options and not just fine-tuning of what’s already there.

Glad that housing item slots are on the priority list, hoping we get more details on that and the whole “housing mirage” thing soon.

[Deceptus]

I'd be careful believing these one off answers from tiny interviews before an expac drops. We're currently in the "promise the world" phase and they're going to say exactly what people want to hear.

I don't want to just call them liars about things like this but development takes a while and plans change so don't get too excited about anything because this is all probably a very long time off.

If we're in "promise the world stage" and Yoshi is saying "low priority this" "can't do that (mch box)" I fear for what the future holds /s

Your average person who rolled dps or tank as their first job tends to be more of the persuasion that healers are intimidating due to potential wipe causing factors and increased visibility of mistakes. I've had that exact conversation with sprouts and even players at endgame who refuse to touch healers because they believe due to either word of mouth or past experiences that it's an intimidating role where your mistakes can lead to your party failing to clear a boss and having to restart which to them is a mortifying possibility. Statistically healer has also been the least played role at endgame from the beginning before and after the supposed guttings. That has never not been the case so your theory that people quit healer due to simplification doesn't hold much weight. The role is no less popular now than it was in the past - the stats are about the same as ever.

TLDR it's true that your average player doesn't care as much as you might think because they believe healer jobs are intimidating anyway. Overall it does not surprise me to see this entirely ignored when they could ask about Viera/Hrothgar headgear or glamour plates.

Respectfully, a lot of "healer issues" come down to bad tanks not using their mitigations properly or completely ignoring potions in low level content (which heal for a massive amount on a low 1m CD) especially with how self sustaining tanks are these days.

[Heavenchild]

To be honest the answers are disappointing to me. Most important things have no priority? Wow.
Please be patient? For another 4 years? I think people were already patient enough.

And from his answers we also see that they don't plan a real change in the char creator. It makes no sense not to do it together with the graphical update. It just means that they won't do much. Maybe I am wrong, but for me it sounds like this.

And as a main MCH I really don't like this 'lunchbox'. At least they could make it prettier. ^^"

In games like this, where 'collecting stuff' is one of the main activities, it should be a high priority to find ways that people can do this activity. I've lost interest in collecting glamour, relics and housing items years ago just because of the system. I ran out of space. And I already have 3 additional retainers.

If it's really so hard to add things to the game code, then it would be maybe better to hire a team to rebuild the game from scratch and then give the players the opportunity to transfer all their characters and stuff into the new game.

[Caro178]

Respectfully, a lot of "healer issues" come down to bad tanks not using their mitigations properly or completely ignoring potions in low level content (which heal for a massive amount on a low 1m CD) especially with how self sustaining tanks are these days.

Nowhere did I say my post was my perspective - it was me sharing the perspectives of others I've interacted with to answer the question posed between Iscah and the other poster (re: why nobody asked YoshiP about healer changes). It wasn't a discussion about what exactly, if anything, is wrong with healers as a role. That's not really a conversation that interests me much because I have my own opinions as someone who played healer in savage and ultimate all through EW.