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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    It's really easy to make the "excel" part better - don't use the spreadsheet. Figure out what should be made by thinking it out yourself.

    Using the spreadsheet is like getting a carry though Savage or Ultimate. Sure, you get the reward for no effort. But the reward also ends up feeling hollow because you didn't truly earn it through your own effort.

    It's not like maximizing cowries is needed at this point. Most of us are going to have Rank 20 islands with hundreds of thousands of cowries by now and we're probably more interested in churning out Felicitous Favors.

    So gamble a bit. See what happens when you decide what to make yourself instead of doing what a worksheet tells you to do. Does it start feeling more fun when what you earn is due to your own effort instead of a spreadsheet?
    Still an excel to me lol. I use them a lot for work to track stuff and looking at how they setup the gameplay for that section my brain turns it automatically in that format. As it lends itself well to that. I do sometimes just wing the setup but I still read the data which ultimately puts me in that mindset either way, earlier on it was due to materials but now I can craft whatever whenever.. so it's less often.. certainly.

    I don't even mind it, I just think it was bad (or at least not great) that was the only real gamification they took. Hence I was like 'yeah lets get some people and lets add gameplay elements to those people'. (Why I also referenced Dark Cloud specifically, since they had pretty much that exactly - although I did suggest hamlet content and I wonder if they'd save such an idea for that). It's fine there is a chart reading gameplay, especially given it's like the only one outside of market ward manipulation (something I do sometimes too for lazy gil), just ... really feels like there should be more 'other' game in that content and not 'just' excel. So if you're responding trying to get me to enjoy the excel more, eh.. I mean I don't hate it, second nature, but I am eager to see /other/ game added to it as I feel it was a big opportunity lost (or alternatively believe it will be feedback for future 'life' content, either way the feedback is worth it.. if it's now great, if it's for the future that's fine I suppose).

    I actually suggested glamour for mammets in one of my obnoxiously long threads already, but yours and another persons post made me think it'd be a lot more fun if it wasn't a glamour but actual content instead.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 12-28-2023 at 03:43 PM.