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    Quote Originally Posted by Sindele View Post
    but if you come out swinging with 'story dungeons and normal raids aren't as hard as they used to be'
    So you disagree with Yoshi-P...why, exactly? I'm not sure why you turned against the director in this odd about-face, but he intentionally and vocally made the MSQ dungeons easier for solo play. If you had watched any live letter from the past few years, you would have seen that. This is not a conspiracy, this is a deliberate design decision. The director has talked about the gameplay changes at length.

    I'm sure we're all pretty upset that FFXIV hasn't taken the mantle from WoW despite all our shilling efforts, but this isn't going to help our cause.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    And yet, you're still here, giving them money and paying for fantasias.
    And yet you are paying $13 each month to defend a multi-billion dollar corporation. You're not even doing it for free, you're paying for the privilege.

    Final Fantasy XIV in 2023 is a lifestyle product. Like owning a trapper keeper in 3rd grade, it makes you a "part" of something without actually having to do anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    And yet, you're still here, giving them money and paying for fantasias.
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    Easier than what, though? The average difficulty of current-day dungeons is one that expects considerably more of the player than even the pre-Duty Support versions of ARR and HW dungeons. I don't think that's really even a matter of opinion, aside from some nitpicking about whether clearer telegraphs offsets higher mechanical difficulty. (If you want to argue that some of those dungeons took an unfair beating in the Duty Support transition, that's a fair - but different - argument.)

    If Yoshi-P disagrees (and that's taking this claim on faith because I really don't care to go research it), well, he's entitled to, but I'm chalking that one up to another case of producers and directors saying things that don't mesh with reality. He ain't the one designing the dungeons, after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    And yet you are paying $13 each month to defend a multi-billion dollar corporation. You're not even doing it for free, you're paying for the privilege.
    This makes no sense. It sounds like the person you're responding to is enjoying the game. They're not paying "to defend a corporation." They're paying to play a game they enjoy, and pointing out how you in fact seem to continue paying that multi-billion corporation to play a game you don't enjoy. That would be the action that seems to make no sense...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenZentra View Post
    That is the worst version of that meme I've ever seen. Comparing someone who supports the same corporation they supposedly hate to someone who has no choice but to participate in society to have basic needs met. That's..wow lol

    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    And yet you are paying $13 each month to defend a multi-billion dollar corporation. You're not even doing it for free, you're paying for the privilege.
    Oh oh! here's my cue! What exactly are YOU paying your sub for?
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    Last edited by Boblawblah; 12-23-2023 at 05:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    This game's community is a laughing stock to everyone else in the gaming world because of how overly self-righteous its fans are. You get less and less with each expansion and yet constantly beg everyone else to come play FFXIV as if it's the best game ever made. You refuse to accept that some people have opinions about the game. As we're headed into the longest drought in FFXIV history, the copes are becoming more and more outlandish. It's like FFXIV players are turning into a parody of themselves.

    FFXIV is not the #1 MMO. It's not even the #2, #3, or #4. People legitimately see this game as not even worthy of consideration. Your friends will leave the game too and it will wither away until there's nothing left because everyone hates playing while hating those who also hate playing. Funny how that works. Whatever good used to be in this game has been replaced by "fans" bashing other people while they barely play the game themselves.
    Which begs the question why are you here, if you're a real gamer you will cancel your sub immediately and go play something that worth the consideration of the gaming community.
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    dont mind me, I'm just here to watch them go off topic having a internet karen episode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sindele View Post
    But again - it was always this way. You have been playing Dance Dance Revolution the entire time, apparently without realizing it.
    I dont think it has. Sure, we've always dodged AoEs, but we've had other mechanics in harder difficulties that didn't have a "Go here to dodge thing or prevent overlap".

    Ifrit had tethers you had to deal with, and constant knockbacks put onto healers. As well as, a tank swap that was really up to how much the tanks could handle before needing to switch. And of course the Nails that you can defeat at your own pace, depending on how much the healers can handle. You dodge AoEs of course, but to sum it up, the largest emphasis was on managing buffs, debuffs, and adds rather than dodging AoEs.
    The same can be said of nearly of all of ARR as a whole, and a fair bit of HW.

    Zodiark and most of Rubicante (for current expansion examples) can be cleared with a dorito on someone's head that knows where to go with everyone else being blind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    That is the worst version of that meme I've ever seen. Comparing someone who supports the same corporation they supposedly hate to someone who has no choice but to participate in society to have basic needs met. That's..wow lol
    "Why would you buy or own a car if you are going to complain about how it could be better?"

    Also, they have yet to say they hate the game. I'd assume most critics actually... like the game and want the game to be better? Maybe even that they used to like the game and want to CONTINUE to like it? God forbid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenZentra View Post
    Ifrit had tethers you had to deal with,
    Which amounted to just staying near each other, then, consider you always killed the nails in a certain order, it really wasn't that hard to do.

    constant knockbacks put onto healers.
    Which amounted to them standing in a certain spot to not be annoying.

    As well as, a tank swap that was really up to how much the tanks could handle before needing to switch.
    Normally 3, however, he does sometimes do 2 debuffs quickly one after the other, which is why you end up with 4 sometimes. Considering 5 is death, 3 is the best to swap at.

    And of course the Nails that you can defeat at your own pace, depending on how much the healers can handle.
    Until you take too long and he kills you from enrage.

    You dodge AoEs of course, but to sum it up, the largest emphasis was on managing buffs, debuffs, and adds rather than dodging AoEs.
    Of which buffs/debuffs/doing any mechanics comes down to solving what the devs are asking of you, then you just do the dance that is asked of you.

    The same can be said of nearly of all of ARR as a whole, and a fair bit of HW.
    Sorry, but all fights are DDR. You can try and say otherwise, but is is a case of, if you have X go to Y.
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