Thoughts on changes made to the game

[Solakor]

Powercreep has made you able to skip mechanics, so why make the mechanics in the first place.
Mob packs/most bosses are meaningless because you have overloaded kits and the potencies of dps skills are too high.
There is no danger in dungeons, most normal trials and now in 24 man content.
The nuance and interesting gameplay has been deleted and it shows. Making fights harder does not make the class gameplay any better.
Having more states of failure makes gameplay interesting.
Making everything too easy develops a toxic mindset as well (class responsibility, laziness, babying players,
no responsibility over anything).

Class interaction is nonexistent. Tp/aggro/debuffs offered varying gameplay. People whined way too much for the effectiveness it brought unless you tried to
min max at the very top end. Overcoming adversity and having varied gameplay is more fun than doing the same thing over and over with 0 variability.

Why have different classes if the gameplay is almost the same?
Shouldn't the fun be having to learn completely different playstyle so you have varying gameplay?
People don't need to have everything maxed. If you have a busy life you shouldn't expect yourself to be able to play most classes or do most content and
developing the game to these kinds of people will serve just to make the game worse and hold less interest for players in the long run.

14 has developed a toxic mindset that it is ok to be bad and there are people who will do the job anyway.
Chat interactions are shunned because of the tos rules and the rules are babying people. Shouldn't we try to let people resolve situations themselves
and have natural interactions rather than try to limit them so much that you dont even know if you get banned for having a normal argument.
People grow when they get to resolve things themselves rather than trying to limit them with arbitrary rules that make them feel caged or worse yet
make a toxic mentality possible where people act like they are helpful but are actually just passive agressive.

Devs chasing max balance/caving into player "demands" is the thing that made all of this happen.
FF14 blew up because it was a good game before the changes and because of WoW exodus, not because the devs made the gameplay braindead

[Sindele]

I'm gonna stop you right after that first paragraph and point out that a good deal of this is actually just you getting better at the game and not challenging yourself to match. Dungeons in particular have literally never at any point in this game's lifespan been very dangerous unless you were doing overtly stupid things (with maybe a couple exceptions if we're being generous). Normals and Alliance Raids are also considerably more mechanically dense than they were in previous expansions - they're still easy to the modern player, and they're supposed to be.

Those have nothing to do with devs, 'demands', other games, or anything else. They're not even really changes. That's all on you. Go do Savage.

Anyway, TP sucked. Debuff and support play being stripped down to nothing sucks but it's a curse that hits basically every MMO eventually because of player behavior and complaints that they can't be solo gods or that composition has made their class 5% less desirable this year. Rotation homogenization around the two minute window is the worst actual thing here and you're giving it all of two sentences.

Wait, now we're complaining about being too busy to level different classes? This is exactly why buffs/debuffs got stripped down to nothing - one-class wonders who won't switch but want to be exactly as viable as every other class in all situations. The harsh truth about synergies is that you will never balance all of them, so you either accept that some classes will occasionally be less favorable, or you level the playing field. Mixed messaging here...

And now we're complaining about the TOS. Yeah, time to wrap it up.

30/100 points. You can do better.

[caffe_macchiato]

30/100 points. You can do better.

This game's community is a laughing stock to everyone else in the gaming world because of how overly self-righteous its fans are. You get less and less with each expansion and yet constantly beg everyone else to come play FFXIV as if it's the best game ever made. You refuse to accept that some people have opinions about the game. As we're headed into the longest drought in FFXIV history, the copes are becoming more and more outlandish. It's like FFXIV players are turning into a parody of themselves.

FFXIV is not the #1 MMO. It's not even the #2, #3, or #4. People legitimately see this game as not even worthy of consideration. Your friends will leave the game too and it will wither away until there's nothing left because everyone hates playing while hating those who also hate playing. Funny how that works. Whatever good used to be in this game has been replaced by "fans" bashing other people while they barely play the game themselves.

[Sindele]

This game's community is a laughing stock to everyone else in the gaming world because of how overly self-righteous its fans are. You get less and less with each expansion and yet constantly beg everyone else to come play FFXIV as if it's the best game ever made. You refuse to accept that some people have opinions about the game. As we're headed into the longest drought in FFXIV history, the copes are becoming more and more outlandish. It's like FFXIV players are turning into a parody of themselves.

FFXIV is not the #1 MMO. It's not even the #2, #3, or #4. People legitimately see this game as not even worthy of consideration. Your friends will leave the game too and it will wither away until there's nothing left because everyone hates playing while hating those who also hate playing. Funny how that works. Whatever good used to be in this game has been replaced by "fans" bashing other people while they barely play the game themselves.

Are you going to bring anything to the table to address the actual points, or are you just going to keep copy-pasting your rants from other threads and pretending they have substance to them?

You can construct all the harebrained mythology you want about where the game's failings truly lie - there are plenty of real problems! - but if you come out swinging with 'story dungeons and normal raids aren't as hard as they used to be' and 'the TOS won't let me talk to anyone', you're not making an argument based in any kind of fact, and it deserves to be treated as such.

FFXIV is not the #1 MMO. It's not even the #2, #3, or #4. People legitimately see this game as not even worthy of consideration.

But hey, if you want to talk about arguments founded entirely on cope...

[sindriiisgaming]

Are you going to bring anything to the table to address the actual points, or are you just going to keep copy-pasting your rants from other threads and pretending they have substance to them?

You can construct all the harebrained mythology you want about where the game's failings truly lie - there are plenty of real problems! - but if you come out swinging with 'story dungeons and normal raids aren't as hard as they used to be' and 'the TOS won't let me talk to anyone', you're not making an argument based in any kind of fact, and it deserves to be treated as such.



But hey, if you want to talk about arguments founded entirely on cope...

i think she did a pretty good job of destorying you arguement tbh. the fact you are lashing out at her is proof

[Sindele]

i think she did a pretty good job of destorying you arguement tbh. the fact you are lashing out at her is proof

I'm content to count this as a point in my favor.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

This game's community is a laughing stock to everyone else in the gaming world because of how overly self-righteous its fans are. You get less and less with each expansion and yet constantly beg everyone else to come play FFXIV as if it's the best game ever made. You refuse to accept that some people have opinions about the game. As we're headed into the longest drought in FFXIV history, the copes are becoming more and more outlandish. It's like FFXIV players are turning into a parody of themselves.

FFXIV is not the #1 MMO. It's not even the #2, #3, or #4. People legitimately see this game as not even worthy of consideration. Your friends will leave the game too and it will wither away until there's nothing left because everyone hates playing while hating those who also hate playing. Funny how that works. Whatever good used to be in this game has been replaced by "fans" bashing other people while they barely play the game themselves.

And yet, you're still here, giving them money and paying for fantasias.

[caffe_macchiato]

but if you come out swinging with 'story dungeons and normal raids aren't as hard as they used to be'

So you disagree with Yoshi-P...why, exactly? I'm not sure why you turned against the director in this odd about-face, but he intentionally and vocally made the MSQ dungeons easier for solo play. If you had watched any live letter from the past few years, you would have seen that. This is not a conspiracy, this is a deliberate design decision. The director has talked about the gameplay changes at length.

I'm sure we're all pretty upset that FFXIV hasn't taken the mantle from WoW despite all our shilling efforts, but this isn't going to help our cause.

And yet, you're still here, giving them money and paying for fantasias.

And yet you are paying $13 each month to defend a multi-billion dollar corporation. You're not even doing it for free, you're paying for the privilege.

Final Fantasy XIV in 2023 is a lifestyle product. Like owning a trapper keeper in 3rd grade, it makes you a "part" of something without actually having to do anything.

[Striker44]

And yet you are paying $13 each month to defend a multi-billion dollar corporation. You're not even doing it for free, you're paying for the privilege.

This makes no sense. It sounds like the person you're responding to is enjoying the game. They're not paying "to defend a corporation." They're paying to play a game they enjoy, and pointing out how you in fact seem to continue paying that multi-billion corporation to play a game you don't enjoy. That would be the action that seems to make no sense...

[Boblawblah]

That is the worst version of that meme I've ever seen. Comparing someone who supports the same corporation they supposedly hate to someone who has no choice but to participate in society to have basic needs met. That's..wow lol

And yet you are paying $13 each month to defend a multi-billion dollar corporation. You're not even doing it for free, you're paying for the privilege.

Oh oh! here's my cue! What exactly are YOU paying your sub for?