Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
It's the same with talent trees in Wow. Everyone looks up the "best" one. There is hardly any variance when you give players a meaningful choice. There's those who follow the meta and those who don't get into groups and quit the game. That's not remotely compelling at all. So what is there meaningless choice? That's even worse.
This is kind of true and kinda not. Yeah there is always going to be a "best" one, but choosing talents that aren't considered the "best" does not keep you out of groups. Subtlety Rouges have recorded the highest DPS in the current patch of WoW, and Assassination has the highest median DPS, but even though Outlaw is the lowest dps spec of the class, it is the most popular. I think no one really cares what spec or talents or whatever you are running unless it was a Mythic raid, so long as you pull your weight. I do not run the BiS talents as a Holy Priest and I am starting to clear Heroic Amirdrassil (current raid). A friend of mine runs Single-Minded Fury Warrior rather than Titan's Grip, which is very suboptimal, he enjoys it better and he has cleared more of the current raid than I have on Heroic.

I agree though, meaningless choices are worse than no choice, but no choice at all is worse than being allowed to make a bad choice. It's like playing DnD and wanting to choose a feat like Grappler, but the DM makes you choose Savage Attacker instead because it'd result in more consistent hits for you.

I dont remember where I've seen or heard it, but I remember something along the lines of, "If you are not allowed to be suboptimal, you are not playing an RPG."