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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    IIRC, that que isn't because there are that many "people" logged in, it's to artificially slow down the login so as to not overwhelm the login servers.
    Wow, I hate that. I sit in que for like a minute or two because its artificially slowed down? Theres like, less than 20 people in queue because we all have to wait around for nothing? Like going to a restaurant and being told there is a wait when there are empty tables and plenty of staff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenZentra View Post
    Wow, I hate that. I sit in que for like a minute or two because its artificially slowed down? Theres like, less than 20 people in queue because we all have to wait around for nothing? Like going to a restaurant and being told there is a wait when there are empty tables and plenty of staff.
    I might be wrong on this but I also believe that server hopping is also tied into the log-in queues. If people are going from Marilith to Seraph and you're trying to log into Marilith, it might also slow you down to process those requests. I can't fully remember but I have a vague memory of being told that before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenZentra View Post
    Like going to a restaurant and being told there is a wait when there are empty tables and plenty of staff.
    More like, going to a restaurant, seeing empty spaces, but having to wait as the staff can only let a certain amount of people in at the same time. This has nothing to do with how full or empty the restaurant is, but how quickly they can get them through the door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    More like, going to a restaurant, seeing empty spaces, but having to wait as the staff can only let a certain amount of people in at the same time. This has nothing to do with how full or empty the restaurant is, but how quickly they can get them through the door.
    Yes, i know its not always just "alright everyone go find a seat". But you aren't told "Okay, please wait 2 minutes" while they just stare at you because they are literally doing nothing. In fact, you are usually seated right away if there is any space, and you wait to give your order at your table. You are seated, but orders for the restaurant are staggered so not to overwhelm the kitchen staff.
    The Restaurant being the game. The Staff the Login Servers. And the Kitchen the Game Servers.

    Only difference being is you are artificially slowed down by the login servers, but when you are in-game you can get instant ques through DF, not having to wait an arbitrary minute or two so the server isnt overwhelmed by so many people queueing into roulettes or whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenZentra View Post
    Yes, i know its not always just "alright everyone go find a seat". But you aren't told "Okay, please wait 2 minutes" while they just stare at you because they are literally doing nothing. In fact, you are usually seated right away if there is any space, and you wait to give your order at your table. You are seated, but orders for the restaurant are staggered so not to overwhelm the kitchen staff.
    The Restaurant being the game. The Staff the Login Servers. And the Kitchen the Game Servers.

    Only difference being is you are artificially slowed down by the login servers, but when you are in-game you can get instant ques through DF, not having to wait an arbitrary minute or two so the server isnt overwhelmed by so many people queueing into roulettes or whatever.
    There are not tiny waiters living in the computer though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by OgruMogru View Post
    There are not tiny waiters living in the computer though...
    Really? No way! /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenZentra View Post
    Really? No way! /s

    Grave misunderstanding of the term "server"
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenZentra View Post
    Wow, I hate that. I sit in que for like a minute or two because its artificially slowed down? Theres like, less than 20 people in queue because we all have to wait around for nothing? Like going to a restaurant and being told there is a wait when there are empty tables and plenty of staff.
    This was implemented because of login issues upon endwalker launch.

    There were several cases of people getting to the front of the login queue, there being an error, and then getting sent to the back of the line. For big servers this meant a 3-4 hour wait.

    This was implemented to make sure issues like that did not happen


    Complaining about afk people in the main cities is kinda silly. Makes limsa actually feel like a hub and not dead
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenZentra View Post
    Wow, I hate that. I sit in que for like a minute or two because its artificially slowed down? Theres like, less than 20 people in queue because we all have to wait around for nothing? Like going to a restaurant and being told there is a wait when there are empty tables and plenty of staff.
    It's more like "all our stoves are being used now, we want to sit you down when we are ready to prepare the meal right after you order it" approach. but I get your concept. Would be nice if someone from IT could explain it better with proper terminology and also reason why it's done that way from point of view of technology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenZentra View Post
    Wow, I hate that. I sit in que for like a minute or two because its artificially slowed down? Theres like, less than 20 people in queue because we all have to wait around for nothing? Like going to a restaurant and being told there is a wait when there are empty tables and plenty of staff.
    What a strange analogy.

    It makes far more sense to recognize you're waiting at a bus stop. The queue is waiting for the bus to take you to the servers. Logins are processed in batches, the "buses" taking whole groups of players into the game. When there are many players in queue, the first bus may fill up, and you'll have to wait your turn for the next one.

    Nothing suggested here is going to change the bus schedule, and the buses aren't currently filling to capacity, so why add a player inconvenience for no benefit?
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