Petition for Instanced housing

[LianaThorne]

Like clockwork. I called it.

People are already unhappy. They have been unhappy for YEARS. Square does not care. Autodemoing Instanced housing would suck sure til you realize "Oh I can just buy another one." Yeah you're out gil and decorating time but you still have all the items.

And as I said before. It is not just "Balmung and a few crystal shards" problem. It's ALL of Crystal and ALL of Aether. Balmung is just the worst example.

Honestly, this would be the route they would probably take if we were to get instanced because it still provides the means for them to hook people in via subscriptions (probably even on a larger scale than what they have now with ward housing). Money is going to be their biggest priority right now, especially after this:
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/...y-16s-release/

[Erinellza]

The problem is instanced housing would ruin their prestige.

And that's exactly why we need instanced housing. People who only want a house because of prestige don't deserve a house at all. I have nearly 20 fully decorated housing instances in ESO, no one visits them, I decorate them for my own pleasure. This is what housing should be, not a trophy some lucky randoms win in a silly lottery.

[ThomasOfEger]

And that's exactly why we need instanced housing. People who only want a house because of prestige don't deserve a house at all. I have nearly 20 fully decorated housing instances in ESO, no one visits them, I decorate them for my own pleasure. This is what housing should be, not a trophy some lucky randoms win in a silly lottery.

EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING!!! There is just a problem with people who feel like "elitists" because they have something that others cannot have...Just give all of us a house and everyone will be happy. And subs will roll in like never before.

[AlexiaD]

EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING!!! There is just a problem with people who feel like "elitists" because they have something that others cannot have...Just give all of us a house and everyone will be happy. And subs will roll in like never before.

The fact you assume that people will subscribe to this game because of instanced housing is pretty comical, while also being very delusional.

And that's exactly why we need instanced housing. People who only want a house because of prestige don't deserve a house at all. I have nearly 20 fully decorated housing instances in ESO, no one visits them, I decorate them for my own pleasure. This is what housing should be, not a trophy some lucky randoms win in a silly lottery.

Exactly why this game aint ESO. This is FFXIV.

If you want to play ESO and have your instanced housing, you can go and play it, this game wont have instanced housing as is very obvious by the devs decision, time to move on and try and fix the ward system, or as I said earlier, yall can keep yelling at the void.

[LianaThorne]

EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING!!! There is just a problem with people who feel like "elitists" because they have something that others cannot have...Just give all of us a house and everyone will be happy. And subs will roll in like never before.

As I said before, I'm on board with everyone having a house in the form of instanced mixed with ward (for those who still want it) or proper compensation to ward owners before flipping to fully instanced. I think that's a pretty fair compromise in terms of the latter as people would have sunk potentially years of time, resources and gil into their house only for it to get removed.

I just also think everyone should prepare for it to come with some kind of consequence instead of just a permanent house that never vanishes. There has to be incentive for them to do this either way and it will most likely come in the form of auto-demolition if they ever chose to give everyone easy access to a house, or some form of rent system to keep it (like LOTRO or BDO). It would have to, in some way, keep people paying money to play the game otherwise there is no real benefit to them to implement it.

I don't really believe it's elitist of me to want everyone to have housing but also be realistic about the mentality that Square has lol.

[SonjaRampage]

People begged for the lottery system we have now so its funny to see all the complaining about it. Its not that hard to get a house either way i see smalls come up in my mist ward on balmung with some frequency and managed to buy 2 of the said smalls right next to each other while being the only bidder on the plots cuz they were smalls and therefore undesirable?

I think some of the possible solutions presented here make good sense like the different sized apartments with a gardening balcony, and definitely more of them available. Or maybe dynamic plots that you can upgrade the size of without moving to a different plot.

But like others have said the housing system is designed to be a subscription anchor so you can't unsub between patches without taking losses to your house which i completely believe is intended.

[LianaThorne]

And that's exactly why we need instanced housing. People who only want a house because of prestige don't deserve a house at all. I have nearly 20 fully decorated housing instances in ESO, no one visits them, I decorate them for my own pleasure. This is what housing should be, not a trophy some lucky randoms win in a silly lottery.

I would agree if the two were comparable as companies. One has Microsoft backing it up now on top of a much larger value as a company (7.5b on a quick search) while the other does not. I would imagine it's not as big of a deal for them to provide instanced housing as they have other pipelines to generate consistent income. The latter is also notorious for poor fund allocation even with multiple pipelines. *shrug*

[Khryseis_Astra]

There’s been lots of threads about this… OP check out the housing forum. Many of us who are in favor of instanced housing have a lot of ideas for how it could work and things we’d like to see.

While the devs have said they like the neighborhood feel of the wards, they know the scarcity is a problem: the question is what they’re willing to do about it, and/or what they are able to do. And lately we’ve seen them experimenting with what they can do in an instances setting… IS being the biggest example. An instanced area can let you place at least 90 outdoor furnishings, and have buildings with open air balconies! There’s discussion of housing mirage, in which you could essentially be able to have any size interior inside any size exterior. How? Because the insides are instanced already, and they can do more there without worrying about server drain. Quoting the translation I found from a patch note reading: “we are promoting specifications such as changing the interior of a house with a completely different size that is scheduled to be in patch 7.x but does not have pillars… a mirage-like setting?” There’s a lot that can be inferred from that statement and some of it we’re just guessing at until then, but the devs are moving to do more with instanced spaces.

Most of those campaigning for instanced housing want it to be an addition to ward housing, NOT a replacement. Let anyone who wants to keep at the lotto go for it, most who want instanced housing just want a place of their own with an indoor and outdoor space to decorate. It’s not going to take away from the “prestige” of the ward owners… easy as it could be to recreate actual ward plots, if they do it at all, you’d probably get one generic plot of each size per neighborhood theme. And that’s fine.

Dynamic housing would be great, sure, but that’s something I don’t see happening with the existing server setup… the wards have to be permanently loaded, whereas instances do not. Now it could be a possibility if they could use the cloud servers to do it, but beyond trying to handle increased logins during Dawntrail release, we don’t really have any statements about any specific plans for how they’re going to use the cloud servers. In a way, it’s a shame they didn’t have them tested and ready to go before they released Dynamis, and had it put on the cloud. A lot of people would’ve been more willing to transfer for the better ping!

But at any rate, they are experimenting with new ideas and new tech. And I’m on the side of having as many options as possible. Adding something that others want doesn’t take anything away from those who already have a scarce resource (or multiple, as the case may be…). We all pay a sub to play, we should all have full access to every feature of the game.

[Atelier-Bagur]

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Its interesting how if they used their resources for IS to be a full on alternative for housing, people would be a lot happier. Im coping that it winds up becoming that when they drop its final update patch but we dont know.

[Kyrj]

Man they really conditioned you guys to accept garbage systems huh? Pathetic.